Mouser Watch #2

[PleaseNotPoll]

Jacques Santini hounded out of the lane after a mere 13 games Hodgson got 31 at Liverpool.

Santini quit due to personal problems. Hodgson was written off before he'd even started and then sacked, after being stabbed in the back by his subsequently unsuccessful successor.

 

[Lucaaas]

Santini quit due to personal problems. Hodgson was written off before he'd even started and then sacked, after being stabbed in the back by his subsequently unsuccessful successor.

He was written off because he was a twat who blamed the fans for Liverpool getting knocked out by Northampton and getting other brilliant results instead of accepting some of the blame himself.

No one really wanted him but he was given a chance and the backing off the fans, until he eradicated all the support for him by acting like a prick.

 

[Klopp's Mannschaft]

Look its great you coming on here to defend your team, but you can bookmark this if you want, I think Liverpool will finish 6th, even with Borini, Kelly and Reina back and some striker signed in January.

The reason is because even if you signed a striker the system you play means the focus is on one person getting the goals, (suarez) now you need to sign a player better then Suarez who can make things out of nothing and scores amazing goals, that costs money and big bucks Liverpool won't be doing that just yet.
Also if you buy a striker are you going to push Suarez out right/left hand side after he has been banging them in for fun and in the top of his form could mean he feels being pushed out.
Just think the way Rodgers plays he wont play a different way as seen with Swansea he likes to play with a main striker and one either side so that's why I think Liverpool won't make the CL cause at the moment Liverpool have played out of their skin so far bar one Arsenal and they are still mid table, 2pts behind Spurs who are playing way below their best and with the quality they have once they improve they will leave Liverpool behind.

Liverpool wont be in the CL league next year its not a fact its just that at the moment they are not good enough but well done for hanging on the coatails after a 1/3 of the season gone when will you make your move for the top 4 places.

I agree we'll probably get 6th. But there is always a chance. You do understand what chance is, right? Same as there's a chance Spuds could come 4th, or finish 10th. It's the beautiful part of football that nothing is set in stone.

I disregard the rest of your post because I don't agree with your reasoning. As for your, 'hanging on the coatails' comment; do all your posts have to try bait an arguement? We've been improving overall (bar arsenal) since game 1. Steadily improving in form whilst others drop in form isn't what I'd call, 'hanging on', it's what I'd call, 'catching up'.

Also, your, 'played out of their skin' comment is another lame bait. If anything, we've played below what we're capable of. Our first 11 is strong. It's our squad depth which fails us, hence us needing reinforcements in January. With that coming up, we're moving up. Where are Spuds moving lately?

 

[NSIS]

Who are these players that are better than the leading premier league scorer and the joint leading scorer in the South American world cup qualifiers?

Oh, and btw, I'm pretty sure most top teams in Europe play with 1 striker, some with none, it hasn't stopped the system being succesful or the team being succesful.

Infact, the only teams who do play with 2 up front (City & Man U) have been badly exposed in Europe and trounced by any half decent team because of their insistance in playing 2 up top. So don't give me this rubbish about Rodgers 'system' not working as its focused around one player, it isnt.

As I appear to have started this "debate" about Suarez, I'll reiterate what I originally said. Yes, I agree with you, he's one of the best strikers anywhere in the world. However, he has this other side. What he did yesterday, once again, was completely unnecessary, malicious, and should have earned him a red card. If Rodgers does not put his foot down, hard! Suarez will continue to be as much of a liability as an asset to you.

 

[PleaseNotPoll]

If Rodgers does not put his foot down, hard! Suarez will continue to be as much of a liability as an asset to you.

Isn't that what Suarez did?

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[NSIS]

Isn't that what Suarez did?

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Unfortunate terminology, but it could have been even more unfortunate for Jones!..

 

[PleaseNotPoll]

Unfortunate terminology, but it could have been even more unfortunate for Jones!..

He's never done anything like that before though, NSIS...

 

[Lucaaas]

As I appear to have started this "debate" about Suarez, I'll reiterate what I originally said. Yes, I agree with you, he's one of the best strikers anywhere in the world. However, he has this other side. What he did yesterday, once again, was completely unnecessary, malicious, and should have earned him a red card. If Rodgers does not put his foot down, hard! Suarez will continue to be as much of a liability as an asset to you.

It didn't harm Alan Shearer's career that he was prone to the odd elbow. Fellaini's reputation isn't suffering because of the fact he kicks and elbows opponents almost every game. Bergkamp was a nasty bastard aswell when he wanted to be. Van Persie is no angel, either is Rooney. Zidane was given loads of red cards aswell.

Football is littered with examples of centre forwards & attacking players who dish out their own (subtle) punishment to defenders that kick them all game. They were never called liabilities, and I don't see it being any different with Suarez.

Its part of the game, just like defenders wrestling attackers at set pieces and diving.

 

[astro]

Isn't that what Suarez did?

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Watch the video and the timings. Jones has lunged for the ball and it has only just squeezed away from Suarez. If Jones had been a tenth of a second slower then Suarez would have won the ball fairly. This wouldn't even make the top five fouls in the vast majority of football games.

I see Martinez wasn't too chatty about Allen needing stitches for a two handed assualt on him that ended with studs in his face after being wrestled to the ground.

 

[NSIS]

Watch the video and the timings. Jones has lunged for the ball and it has only just squeezed away from Suarez. If Jones had been a tenth of a second slower then Suarez would have won the ball fairly. This wouldn't even make the top five fouls in the vast majority of football games.

I suggest you look at the action of Suarez's foot, preferably without your red tinted glasses. It's a clear stamping motion! It was certainly no genuine attempt to win the ball.

 

[NSIS]

It didn't harm Alan Shearer's career that he was prone to the odd elbow. Fellaini's reputation isn't suffering because of the fact he kicks and elbows opponents almost every game. Bergkamp was a nasty bastard aswell when he wanted to be. Van Persie is no angel, either is Rooney. Zidane was given loads of red cards aswell.

Football is littered with examples of centre forwards & attacking players who dish out their own (subtle) punishment to defenders that kick them all game. They were never called liabilities, and I don't see it being any different with Suarez.

Its part of the game, just like defenders wrestling attackers at set pieces and diving.

Yes, we've had this argument from one of your fellow supporters already. It is not a contest! This is not a niggly, sly dig by Suarez! He could easily have broken Jones' leg. I repeat, it's not the first time he has indulged in deliberate attempts to cause serious injury. It won't be the last.

 

[PleaseNotPoll]

I suggest you look at the action of Suarez's foot, preferably without your red tinted glasses. It's a clear stamping motion! It was certainly no genuine attempt to win the ball.

This. Add in the fact that Suarez' foot could actually reach the ball before Jones does and it's pretty clear what he's doing.
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[NSIS]

Thanks for that, PNP. Yes that makes it perfectly clear what his intentions were. It's a shame, he's a fantastic striker. Why he has to behave like that, only he knows. Maybe it just comes naturally!..

 

[Klopp's Mannschaft]

Yes, Suarez is a villian who's trying to break everyone's legs in every game he plays

 

[astro]

This. Add in the fact that Suarez' foot could actually reach the ball before Jones does and it's pretty clear what he's doing.
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The first one is a joke. There isn't a single player who wouldn't have been fooled by that skillful dink to the right. Again look at the timings. If Suarez is doing these fouls on purpose he has reactions bordering on psychic. The second one is very clumsy and a definite yellow.

In the one from Wigan, both Jones and Suarez are making the exact same "stamping" motion on the ball. Jones arrives a fraction of a second first so Suarez ends up standing on his foot. It could have easily been the other way round, in which case no doubt Suarez would be accused of diving.

 

[Lucaaas]

Yes, we've had this argument from one of your fellow supporters already. It is not a contest! This is not a niggly, sly dig by Suarez! He could easily have broken Jones' leg. I repeat, it's not the first time he has indulged in deliberate attempts to cause serious injury. It won't be the last.

If he wanted to injure Jones then he would've tackled him a lot higher on his leg than that and would've gone right through him.

It was a sly dig on him, nothing more. If a player genuinely wanted to injure another player you'd know about it, like Keane on Halaand. It rarely happens, if ever. Stamping on toes, going through the back of players and elbowing them? Yes, showing them that you won't be intimidated. Deliberately trying to injure players? No, it rarely happens, definitely not something that I can remember happening in the last 5 years in the premier league.

 

[PleaseNotPoll]

Deliberately trying to injure players? No, it rarely happens, definitely not something that I can remember happening in the last 5 years in the premier league.

I can think of a few off-the-ball elbows to the head that would definitely count. Rooney on McCarthy or Gerrard on Brown, for example.

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[NSIS]

If he wanted to injure Jones then he would've tackled him a lot higher on his leg than that and would've gone right through him.

It was a sly dig on him, nothing more. If a player genuinely wanted to injure another player you'd know about it, like Keane on Halaand. It rarely happens, if ever. Stamping on toes, going through the back of players and elbowing them? Yes, showing them that you won't be intimidated. Deliberately trying to injure players? No, it rarely happens, definitely not something that I can remember happening in the last 5 years in the premier league.

I have no idea why you continue to try and defend the blatantly indefensible. It was a malicious, nasty, totally uncalled for, assault that could easily have broken the other players leg. If you can't see that, you really are kidding yourself,
Again, this is NOT a comparatively bad foul contest! Yes, I know there have been worse. That in no way excuses Suarezs' behaviour.

 

[NSIS]

The first one is a joke. There isn't a single player who wouldn't have been fooled by that skillful dink to the right. Again look at the timings. If Suarez is doing these fouls on purpose he has reactions bordering on psychic. The second one is very clumsy and a definite yellow.

In the one from Wigan, both Jones and Suarez are making the exact same "stamping" motion on the ball. Jones arrives a fraction of a second first so Suarez ends up standing on his foot. It could have easily been the other way round, in which case no doubt Suarez would be accused of diving.

I give up talk about see only what you want to see!!...the guy is a loose cannon. He will seriously injure an opposition player very soon, if he's allowed to continue. Neither of those examples is bad timing, or anything other than malicious assault.

 

[Lucaaas]

I can think of a few off-the-ball elbows to the head that would definitely count. Rooney on McCarthy or Gerrard on Brown, for example.

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That was vicious. Definitely an attempt to injure Brown and put him out for a lengthy period of time. I am surprised Brown managed to carry on with the game. Infact, I'm surprised he didn't suffer severe brain damage and hasn't been confined to a life in a wheelchair after that vicious assault.