The Reason Behind Falling Attendances?

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Simply put attendances are down because Rangers are not in the SPL.

That is the MAIN reason.

School uniform prices etc may have had some effect but the MAIN and most costly reason is Rangers absence from the SPL.
 
Medro:3687862 said:
Simply put attendances are down because Rangers are not in the SPL.

That is the MAIN reason.

School uniform prices etc may have had some effect but the MAIN and most costly reason is Rangers absence from the SPL.
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I don't get it

How does Rangers existence affect the attendance of games they are not involved in?
 
Medro said:
Look we can both see the huge drop from 1,095,740 1 season to 866,061 the next, but you must also see the rise each year after that. So would that not suggest that ticket sales are increasing each year DESPITE the recession?
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As I explained, what seems like years ago, 2009-10 low attendances are explained by the fact we had a run of home league games where the attendances were 30,000 - 29,650 - 27,750 - 24,000. That had nothing to do with the recession etc etc- everything to do with Tony Mowbray.

Incidentally and as I alluded to, the season ticket sales for that year were 48,000, approx 5,500 MORE than the following season 2010-11. (but less than the previous years at the start of the recession).

Medro said:
See above you are failing to take into account the recession years.
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You're disregarding the rather more salient point that ticket sales pre-recession were vastly higher than any season since.

Medro said:
About a £20/£25 difference I've heard from CL tickets books to Europa ticket books last year. Would that extra £20 be the reason for falling attendances? Na I think not.
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Not entirely no. But for those of us who don't go to every game it's a choice - europe or league? More people want to go to CL than Europa league (hence higher attendances) so presumably more people this year are chosing european games over domestic.

Medro said:
So how much did they go up if it has obviously had a huge impact on your attendances?
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First of all I've already said an average of about 5%. However, people make decisions on whether to go to football not just on the basis of how much a ticket is but on the basis of how much money they've spent on other things. Funnily enough, when disposable income goes down due to increases in food bills, taxes and fuel prices, people decide that football is something of a luxury. Hence season ticket sales going down EVERY SEASON since 2008 - regardless of whether your team or their predecessors were in the SPL.
 
Admiral Pure said:
Woo-hoo. I killed the thread <atlonglastsmiley>
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I think Medro killed it when I eventually managed to drag a quote out of him that he cannot possibly back up with any evidence. His opinion overrules all other factors and simply put:

THE MAIN REASON ATTENDANCES ARE FALLING AT PARKHEAD IS BECAUSE RANGERS ARE IN THE SFL. THE RECESSION HAS HAD LITTLE OR NO IMPACT ON ATTENDENCES. OTHER POSSIBLE FACTORS CAN BE IGNORED.

<laugh>
 
Mind The Step said:
I don't get it

How does Rangers existence affect the attendance of games they are not involved in?
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Don't start him off again, he's obviously gifted with Psychic powers and knows these things despite not living or working in Scotland.

Also don't ask him to explain the falling attendances at Ibrox <ok> It's all lies.
 
I mostly post on the Rangers and Celtic boards because i'm not Hooring my arse for Rep, unlike some.

I don't have another poster's picture as my Avatar and I certainly don't write posts about other posters, likewise i don't have a 99.8% activity, those really are good indicators of "obsession" in my view. <ok>
 
Admiral Pure said:
As I explained, what seems like years ago, 2009-10 low attendances are explained by the fact we had a run of home league games where the attendances were 30,000 - 29,650 - 27,750 - 24,000. That had nothing to do with the recession etc etc- everything to do with Tony Mowbray.

Incidentally and as I alluded to, the season ticket sales for that year were 48,000, approx 5,500 MORE than the following season 2010-11. (but less than the previous years at the start of the recession).



You're disregarding the rather more salient point that ticket sales pre-recession were vastly higher than any season since.



Not entirely no. But for those of us who don't go to every game it's a choice - europe or league? More people want to go to CL than Europa league (hence higher attendances) so presumably more people this year are chosing european games over domestic.



First of all I've already said an average of about 5%. However, people make decisions on whether to go to football not just on the basis of how much a ticket is but on the basis of how much money they've spent on other things. Funnily enough, when disposable income goes down due to increases in food bills, taxes and fuel prices, people decide that football is something of a luxury. Hence season ticket sales going down EVERY SEASON since 2008 - regardless of whether your team or their predecessors were in the SPL.
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Read the first line then just thought **** it, yaaaaaaawn...

So what did your username used to be?
 
DevAdvocate said:
I mostly post on the Rangers and Celtic boards because i'm not Hooring my arse for Rep, unlike some.

I don't have another poster's picture as my Avatar and I certainly don't write posts about other posters, likewise i don't have a 99.8% activity, those really are good indicators of "obsession" in my view. <ok>
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Bollocks.

So you've never mentioned me in threads where I haven't even posted?...
 
Apologies, busy afternoon in work.

Mind The Step said:
I don't get it

How does Rangers existence affect the attendance of games they are not involved in?
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You might want to brush up on your history to see who your main domestic competitor has been the last 15 years and also the highest attendances you got during that time.

Admiral Pure said:
As I explained, what seems like years ago, 2009-10 low attendances are explained by the fact we had a run of home league games where the attendances were 30,000 - 29,650 - 27,750 - 24,000. That had nothing to do with the recession etc etc- everything to do with Tony Mowbray.
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Yes you had pish attendances for games back then, but your ticket sales improved grew each year DURING THE RECESSION. And just to note, the stats I supplied are SPL stats, I’m guessing those figures that you supplied are for cup games, correct?

Admiral Pure said:
Incidentally and as I alluded to, the season ticket sales for that year were 48,000, approx 5,500 MORE than the following season 2010-11. (but less than the previous years at the start of the recession).
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So tell me, how is it important that season ticket sales decreased yet it’s not important to you that overall ticket sales increased. It seems you’re ignoring one point to strengthen your own.

Admiral Pure said:
You're disregarding the rather more salient point that ticket sales pre-recession were vastly higher than any season since.
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<doh>

And you seem to continuously disregard the fact that DURING THE RECESSION the number of ticket sales for your club still increased.

Admiral Pure said:
Not entirely no. But for those of us who don't go to every game it's a choice - europe or league? More people want to go to CL than Europa league (hence higher attendances) so presumably more people this year are chosing european games over domestic.
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So that £20 difference shouldn’t make a difference but you’re saying it is? And the fact that Rangers are not challenging for the SPL title and there will be no old Firm games makes no difference?

Admiral Pure said:
First of all I've already said an average of about 5%. However, people make decisions on whether to go to football not just on the basis of how much a ticket is but on the basis of how much money they've spent on other things. Funnily enough, when disposable income goes down due to increases in food bills, taxes and fuel prices, people decide that football is something of a luxury. Hence season ticket sales going down EVERY SEASON since 2008 - regardless of whether your team or their predecessors were in the SPL.
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You keep banging on about ticket sales, yet ignore the fact that your ticket sales have actually increased.

2009/10 866,061
2010/11 930,395
2011/12 967,182
 
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