The Reason Behind Falling Attendances?
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- Who said it was? I am making a point that unemployment rates were higher in Scotland quite a few times in the past few years yet tickets were still snapped up by Celtic fans. You claim the recession is the main reason for the drop in attendances yet at the height of the recession when there were more people unemployed and Rangers were still in the SPL you were selling tickets no problem.
Again, who said recessions were decided on unemployment figures? Wages have been frozen? I'm guessing that ticket prices for Savco matches have risen dramatically? Who am I kidding asking you that, I've tried to get an answer out of you half a dozen times about ticket prices and you still can't come up with one.
Living in a bubble.
Listen to yourself. Savco's main rivals booted out of the SPL and there's a drop in ticket sales. That's understandable.
But save yourself the embarrasment of rolling out the excuses like the recession is finally starting to kick in, champions league football etc etc etc.
They've all been quashed.
You're silly. As I said, season ticket sales have fallen every year since the start of the recession. From 53,000 in 2008, to 42,500 last year - all of which seasons included Ra Gerz in the SPL. This year's drop is comparable to previous seasons.
And the price of a single match seat has gone up (for non-restricted view at a league game) from £25 to £28. An increase of >10% at a time when disposable income is actually going down.
You're welcome.
You're silly. As I said, season ticket sales have fallen every year since the start of the recession. From 53,000 in 2008, to 42,500 last year - all of which seasons included Ra Gerz in the SPL. This year's drop is comparable to previous seasons.
And the price of a single match seat has gone up (for non-restricted view at a league game) from £25 to £28. An increase of >10% at a time when disposable income is actually going down.
You're welcome.
Celtic Attendances
2007/08 1,067,449
2008/09 1,095,740
2009/10 866,061
2010/11 930,395
2011/12 967,182
So ticket sales have actually been on the rise since 2009 (during the recession) yet have plummeted this season.
You're welcome.
So are we now to believe that the drop in attendances this season is now down to the £3 increase?
Celtic Attendances
2007/08 1,067,449
2008/09 1,095,740
2009/10 866,061
2010/11 930,395
2011/12 967,182
So ticket sales have actually been on the rise since 2009 (during the recession) yet have plummeted this season.
You're welcome.
So are we now to believe that the drop in attendances this season is now down to the £3 increase?
and extra champs league games though medders
in fact, given that celtic have had an average of 5000 fewer fans for home games, wouldnt a mere 2 champs league home games cover this.
is it, in fact, the case,mlaud medro, that in real terms celtic are likely to have more punters through their gates this year if they only finish 3rd in their champs league game - never mind a sell out last 16?
is it, in fact, the case,mlaud medro, that in real terms celtic are likely to have more punters through their gates this year if they only finish 3rd in their champs league game - never mind a sell out last 16?
Celtic Attendances
2007/08 1,067,449
2008/09 1,095,740
2009/10 866,061
2010/11 930,395
2011/12 967,182
So ticket sales have actually been on the rise since 2009 (during the recession) yet have plummeted this season.
You're welcome.
So are we now to believe that the drop in attendances this season is now down to the £3 increase?
The 2009/10 blip is due to 4 or 5 games where we had uber-****e attendances of about 24,000 (the end of Mowbray days).
Otherwise - thanks for proving my point. You've shown very clearly that there was a decrease of ~128,000 paying customers per season (~7,000 per game) when comparing 2008 to 2012 ie the recession- WHEN RANGERS WERE IN THE LEAGUE.
When do you think the recession started? When Tony Mowbray took over at Celtic? You're getting "depression" mixed up with "recession"
Anyway - as I've said you've shown quite beautifully that total ticket sales have decreased by >10% over a period in which Rangers were in the league. And as I've said season ticket sales have dropped season by season by a toal of >10,000 over the same period. That they've gone down further is completely in keeping with that trend.
On the other hand, attendances at european games has risen. We've had 54,000, 51,000 and 58,000 at our three european games compared to an average of ~37,000 last year. Proving Mr Lawell's assertion that people are picking and chosing which games they attend.
The only people embarrassing themselves are you and nev and chapper who think the recession never happened (or is over) and it had no real effect on attendances anyway. It really does sum you up better than I ever could.
If you believe it then you are a fool, pure and simple, literally.
As my signature says, you cannot reason a man out of something he was not reasoned into, you have shown neither reasoning nor logic and I won't waste any more time explaining simple ****ing concepts to morons.
He's not obsessed but he has a ten year old picture of me as his avatar.
Simple **** thinks he's annoying me with it.
DevAdvocate:3687130 said:
He's not obsessed but he has a ten year old picture of me as his avatar.
Simple **** thinks he's annoying me with it.
Well you do own him
Let's see if he mentions why he felt the need to use that picture, should be enlightening
When do you think the recession started? When Tony Mowbray took over at Celtic? You're getting "depression" mixed up with "recession"
http://www.financialadvice.co.uk/ne...uk-recession-officially-start-to-kick-in.html 2008
I'm not sure if you are reading this properly. 866,061 - 930,395 - 967,182 is NOT a decrease.
On the other hand, attendances at european games has risen. We've had 54,000, 51,000 and 58,000 at our three european games compared to an average of ~37,000 last year. Proving Mr Lawell's assertion that people are picking and chosing which games they attend.
How much are this seasons CL ticket prices compared to last seasons Europa ticket prices?
Recession & unemployment â 2 subjects that are in no way linked to each other, gotcha.
Where and when did I say it had little or no affect on attendances? Sticking by a frankly ridiculous assertion that you made up.
You said peoples wages have frozen. Have Savco tickets risen dramatically?
Are you really this ****ing stupid son? No one used unemployment as an excuse, that is one of the factors that is used when deciding whether we are in recession but it is not the only or main factor. Do you not see that?
This is what you said:
So to save us all a lot of trouble why don't you explain EXACTLY what you meant when you typed it?
ps You keep saying "Savco", am I supposed to respond when I don't have a clue what you are talking about?
Using the Golden Rule Theory, it would suggest that the word Sevco grinds his gears.
Quite what the Golden Rule says about having someone as your avatar rather than starting a thread about them is uncertain.
By my interpretation, I think it means he cuffs off thinking of you.
So Medro's argument is that attendances are down because Rangers are dead but attendances are up despite the recession?
Please tell me I've got the wrong end of the stick here
Please tell me I've got the wrong end of the stick here