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Didn't say you don't have a right to moan about. Just don't turn into scousers jumping on the conspiracy bandwagon that all decisions go in uniteds favour. We get our fair share of contentious decisions as do you lot.. We also get a a fair share of contentious ones go against us. But as you don't follow us you don't see the ones that go against us.

As I said shi t happens.. Ivanovic deserved to go.. You may have held on for 2-2 with ten men, you may not have.
 
Just seen Torres first yellow. Shouldnt of been on the pitch. Got lucky once and then got unlucky. Evened out really. Apparently Ivanovich was a deserved red and I am going to guess DL lead the charge laughing at QPR yesterday over Arsenals offside goal.

So what exactly is the issue here?
 
As a complete neutral here, I'd just like to know what the authorities were doing selecting Clattenburg for a game this important?

He is serially incompetent, panics under pressure and is a prize showboater - surely D'Urso would have been a better bet.

Good game, but completely wrecked.
 
We're pretty *issed off in this house tonight although the upside is that at times we were brilliant and withour De Gea's fabulous saves we would have been home and dry.

FWIW:

Game of 3 thirds, first to MUFC, second to us and the third to the inability of Clattenburgh.

I think Torres should have had a red.

I think Brani should have had a red.

The third goal wasn't.

Nothing will change until the EPL has the balls to put in video playback not half-arsed goal line technology that will be called into play a handful of times each season.

For a team in transition, let's not forget, we are frigging good and will be there or thereabouts come seasons end.
 
Bloo said:
We're pretty *issed off in this house tonight although the upside is that at times we were brilliant and withour De Gea's fabulous saves we would have been home and dry.

FWIW:

Game of 3 thirds, first to MUFC, second to us and the third to the inability of Clattenburgh.

I think Torres should have had a red.

I think Brani should have had a red.

The third goal wasn't.

Nothing will change until the EPL has the balls to put in video playback not half-arsed goal line technology that will be called into play a handful of times each season.

For a team in transition, let's not forget, we are frigging good and will be there or thereabouts come seasons end.
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<ok> This.
 
UnitedinRed mkII said:
Just seen Torres first yellow. Shouldnt of been on the pitch. Got lucky once and then got unlucky. Evened out really. Apparently Ivanovich was a deserved red and I am going to guess DL lead the charge laughing at QPR yesterday over Arsenals offside goal.

So what exactly is the issue here?
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Didn't actually watch the game, then?
 
suarezlfc said:
Didn't actually watch the game, then?
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At work so no, just downloading it now.

These would be the talking points. I have seen Torres' first yellow and it was a red. No Chelsea fans are questioning Ivanovich's red and Hernandez was offside. As I said, I doubt offside goals were an issue as Chelsea fans laughed at QPR yesterday.

As these are what some Chelsea and most Liverpool fans are ****ing crying about I was wondering what the issue is? Maybe theres other things and they are not bringing them up? I will find out soon.
 
can not believe that any body thinks torres should of had a red, there was clear contact and how can any body judge whether he could of stayed up or not? could not of ashley young stayed up? how the f*ck is a ref suppose to decide that? we were fùcked over pure and simple.
 
you have been robbed a point... get over yourself. all chelsea fans seem to agree you had the right to be down to ten... I doubt you would have won. Sure.. be aggrieved but be aggrieved at the refs..

saying united "cheated" is laughable... did they handball any of the goals? did they dive for a penalty? no... first two goals were legit, last goal was offside but how did hernandez cheat? any goalscorer will first score then see if he's offside... did you expect him to not touch the ball if he knew he was offside? lol

torres card was harsh but that has nothing to do with united whatsoever... did any of the players surround and assault the ref (like ballack and drogba used to do) and request another yellow? not as far as I am aware. Blame clattenburg, call united lucky... but saying they cheated is laughable and makes you lose all credibility.
 
luckywerthers said:
can not believe that any body thinks torres should of had a red, there was clear contact and how can any body judge whether he could of stayed up or not? could not of ashley young stayed up? how the f*ck is a ref suppose to decide that? we were fùcked over pure and simple.
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torres deserved a red for his challenge on cleverley... karma I guess.
 
Circa said:
you have been robbed a point... get over yourself. all chelsea fans seem to agree you had the right to be down to ten... I doubt you would have won. Sure.. be aggrieved but be aggrieved at the refs..

saying united "cheated" is laughable... did they handball any of the goals? did they dive for a penalty? no... first two goals were legit, last goal was offside but how did hernandez cheat? any goalscorer will first score then see if he's offside... did you expect him to not touch the ball if he knew he was offside? lol

torres card was harsh but that has nothing to do with united whatsoever... did any of the players surround and assault the ref (like ballack and drogba used to do) and request another yellow? not as far as I am aware. Blame clattenburg, call united lucky... but saying they cheated is laughable and makes you lose all credibility.
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united do not need to cheat the ref's do it for them
 
The refs are scared of SAF we know that.

But we are top of the league and European champions. And one striker away from being a very good side again.

So Chelsea fans, we should be positive tonight.

Fans too were immense today
 
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