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Southampton V Tottenham Match Thread

Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by Boss, Oct 26, 2012.

  1. O.Spurcat

    O.Spurcat Well-Known Member

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    Jeez, how obvious was that one. From my era as well <doh>.
     
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  2. totsfan

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    thought you 'd say something like that<ok>
     
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  3. Chaplow's Shiny Head

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    Going back a bit there was Martin Chivers who scored a shed load for both clubs.As far as Sunday goes I fancy you will edge us 3 2 in what I think will be a good game. We will impress with our enterprise and we have three or four top players by anyone's standards sadly none of them are defenders and that is for all to see .Our only hope is we are good at home and I think it could be closer than some may think,we seem to go to sleep for a short period in most games and we get punished, very often in games when we are playing well. If we are to survive we need to eradicate schoolboy errors at the back if we can achieve this we could match many prem teams in the middle part of the table.
     
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  4. O.Spurcat

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    What's your goalkeeper situation at the moment Chaplow's ?? I noticed Boruc played last week, has Davis gone from 1st choice to 3rd ??
     
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  5. st_brendy

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    Crouch. Davenport.
     
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  6. st_brendy

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    You can play pin the tail on the donkey with regards to who will play in goal for us on Sunday. Davis goes from 1 to 2. Gazzaniga goes from league two to 2 to 1 to 3. Boruc goes from no pre-season to 3 to 1.

    Our defence is almost as much of a mess, although an injury or two does appear to have made the make-up of our back four this weekend slightly more predictable.

    I'm expecting us to score. Only Wigan have prevented us so far this season. However I'm also expecting you guys to leave with the points. Possibly by a comfortable margin. Looking forward to Bale's return. Miss him.
     
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  7. O.Spurcat

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    Davenport !!

    I had forgotten about him. Dreadful player whose career was ended in rather unfortunate circumstances. Not nice to get knifed by your sisters fella, although I think there were two sides to that tale.
     
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  8. O.Spurcat

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    Cheers for the keeper info. Will Bale get a good reception from your fans ??
     
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  9. st_brendy

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    Why on earth Harry thought bringing him in would help keep us up, I've no idea. But then the same applied to Jamie, Nigel Quashie, and Oliver Bernard. Signing Henri Camara was the only one of Harry's signings which made any sense at the time, and indeed was the only one which turned out to be any sort of relative success.
     
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  10. O.Spurcat

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    I didn't realise he was a Harry signing. Not one of his better ones. He's been linked with a return to Saints. I take it, that wouldn't be a popular choice ??
     
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  11. st_brendy

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    I would imagine so. I don't blame him for leaving, and I personally don't know anyone who does. We'd just lost in the play-offs and were facing at least another 12 months in the Championship. You were a big name Pl team. And whilst we didn't know it immediately at the time, we were heading for financial meltdown. In hindsight, our board presumably had an inclining of this at time.

    I and many others are just proud to see so many of our youth players in the PL, including now, at last, Lallana.

    In fact, there's a poll over on the Saints board on here discussing just this subject, and the voting is overwhelmingly in Bale's favour. One day, one day i hope that either Bale, Walcott, or Chamberlain will be back in Saints shirt. But I suspect I'll be waiting many years yet!
     
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  12. st_brendy

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    I wouldn't throw my season ticket away, I love my club too much for that. But I would be seriously peeved off to see him back.

    It's pretty much the only thing Cortese could do that I wouldn't accept. He could sack Adkins or sell Lallana or hike up season ticket prices and, whilst I wouldn't be happy, I would accept it. Cortese has built up enough good in my eyes to be offset against those things. But not bringing Harry back.
     
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  13. O.Spurcat

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    Yeah, I guessed that would be your response and I'd be the same if I was a Saints fan.

    I'm coming to the game on Sunday and really looking forward to it. It's got the makings of a good one <ok>.
     
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  14. humanbeingincroydon

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    David Howells, plus Hoddle managed both.
     
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  15. perrymanlegend

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    What about the late Dean Richards?
     
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  16. notsosmartspur

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    Here you go Spurcat <ok> How can anyone forget Razor Ruddock!..and particular shame on you for forgetting Keller & Hollowbread! :D I remember your soft spot for Hollowbread back on beeb...........fuse lit!
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    Paul Allen
    Gareth Bale
    Lee Barnard
    Dave Beasant
    Joe Blake
    Kevin Bond (Saints player, Spurs asst manager)
    Tommy Cable
    Martin Chivers
    George Clawley
    Peter Crouch
    Ian Culverhouse
    Calum Davenport
    Alf Day
    Ally Dick
    Kerry Dixon
    Dickie Dowsett
    Jack Elkes
    Harry Evans (Saints player, Spurs asst manager)
    Iago Falque
    Tommy Forecast
    Alex Glen
    John Gorman (Spurs player, asst manager at both clubs)
    Alf Hawley
    Glenn Hoddle (Spurs player, manager at both clubs)
    John Hollowbread
    David Howells
    Doug Hunt
    Philip Ifil
    Ernie Jones
    Joe Jordan (Saints player, Spurs coach)
    John Joyce
    Kasey Keller
    John McConnachie
    Frank Osborne
    Tomáš Pekhart
    Alf Ramsey
    Grzegorz Rasiak
    Harry Redknapp (manager with both clubs)
    Jamie Redknapp
    Matt Reilly
    Ron Reynolds (also Saints scout)
    Dean Richards
    Graham Roberts
    Dick Rowley
    Neil Ruddock
    John Saintly (Spurs player, Saints coach)
    Frank Saul
    Graeme Souness (Spurs player, Saints manager)
    Archie Turner
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    Southampton host Tottenham Hotspur at St Mary's Stadium on Sunday 28th October 2012 (KO 15:00) in the 9th round of 2012-13 Premier League matches.

    Spurs come into the game in 5th place on 14 points with Southampton in 18th place on 4 points. This will be the 179th time the two teams have met each other and the first time since March 2005.

    Spurs and Southampton were two of England's top teams at the start of the 20th Century with the Saints reaching the 1900 & 1902 FA Cup Finals and Spurs going one better by winning the competition in 1901, thus becoming the only non-League club to achieve the feat since the formation of the Football League in 1888-89.

    The first meeting between the clubs came in December 1893 and the friendly finished as a 1-0 win to Southampton, Four more friendlies were played over the next four years and the first competitive match was played in March 1897 with Southampton drawing their home Southern League fixture 1-1 and Spurs drawing their home fixture 2-2 a month later.

    The clubs were regular opponents in both the Southern League and Western League until 1908, when Tottenham switched to become a Football League club. Those non-League encounters were usually hard fought affairs and Southampton had slightly the better of things overall.

    The first FA Cup encounter between the clubs came in January 1902 with holders Spurs held 1-1 in the 1st Round (today's 3rd Round) at White Hart Lane. The replay was also drawn 2-2 and a second replay was held at Elm Park, Reading with Southampton winning 2-1. The Saints made it all the way to the Final that season before losing to Sheffield United in a replay.

    Tottenham played Southampton four times during World War One in the London Combination and won three of those games to Southampton's one. The Spurs home games were played at Highbury and Homerton, as White Hart Lane had been taken-over by the army.

    Southampton, who were founded in 1885 started-out as St. Mary’s Church Young Men’s Association and moved to The Dell in 1898, joined the newly-formed Football League Division Three in season 1920-21 and won promotion to Division Two at the first attempt. They remained in the Second Division for 31 consecutive seasons.

    The first League meeting between Tottenham and Southampton came in September 1928 with Spurs drawing 1-1 at The Dell and winning 3-2 at White Hart Lane in January 1929.

    The clubs played a further eight seasons in Division Two prior to World War Two and Spurs won 9 and drew 3 of the 18 games played during this period. Ten games were played during World War Two with Spurs winning five, Southampton winning two and three games drawn.

    The first of three key player transfers from Southampton to Tottenham came in 1949 when right-back Alf Ramsey joined Spurs. The General would become a huge part of Spurs successive Second and First Division Championship winning teams in the early 1950's and play for England 32 times.

    Tottenham and Southampton resumed their matches in Division Two in the four seasons after World War Two before Spurs won promotion to Division One for the 1950-51 season. There was also an FA Cup 6th Round match in January 1948 at the Dell which Spurs won 1-0.

    Southampton won promotion to the First Division in season 1966-67 for the first time in their history and Spurs won both fixtures 5-3 at home and 1-0 away. The Saints kept their First Division status until season 1973-74.

    The second key transfer came in January 1968 when Spurs bought Southampton centre forward Martin Chivers for a then British record fee of £125,000. Spurs striker Frank Saul moved in the opposite direction as part of the deal. Big Chiv took a while to find his form, partnering first Jimmy Greaves and later Alan Gilzean but once he came back from a broken leg, he became England's finest attacker in the early to mid-1970's.

    October 1968 saw the first Football League Cup match between the clubs and Spurs won the 5th Round match 1-0 at the Lane.

    Tottenham were relegated for season 1977-78 and both Second Division matches with Southampton ended as 0-0 draws, the latter giving both clubs promotion to the First Division, along with Champions Bolton Wanderers.

    The 28 games played in Division One from 1978-79 to 1991-92 resulted in 12 wins for Tottenham, 9 wins for Southampton and 7 draws.

    During this period, the clubs met twice in the FA Cup with a win apiece and once in the League Cup with a win for the Saints. There were also two games played in the Screen Sports Super Cup, a competition which took the place of European matches for English clubs which were banned.
    Spurs won both of these games 2-1 at home and 3-1 away.

    Both Tottenham Hotspur and Southampton were founder members of the Premier League in 1992-93, but the Saints were relegated at the end of the 2004-05 season. Spurs had the slight edge during these encounters with 11 wins to 10 with 5 matches drawn. The very first Premier League game for both clubs was a 0-0 draw on 15th August 1992 at The Dell.

    A fifth round FA Cup replay in March 1995 saw an amazing hat-trick by Ronnie Rosenthal to give Spurs a 6-2 win. Southampton won the last FA Cup meeting in January 2003 4-0 at St. Mary's Stadium, which had become the Saints new home in August 2001.

    In May 2007, Spurs secured the services of the third key player from Southampton when Welsh left-sided player Gareth Bale was signed initially for £5,000,000 with an additional £2,000,000 paid in add-ons.

    Last season, Tottenham's Spanish attacking midfielder Iago Falque was loaned to the Saints, who won promotion back to the Premier League as runners-up in the Championship.

    Overall, Spurs have won 75, Southampton have won 58 and 45 of the 178 matches between the two clubs have been drawn.
     
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  17. PleaseNotPoll

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    Cheers, THFC6061... er, I mean Notso. :bandit:
     
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  18. perrymanlegend

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    Hmm is it Notso or 6061 wonder where he went.
     
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  19. The Mighty Thor

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    I'd expect a two goal win with a nil scoresheet tomorrow if I were AVB. We must win this one.
     
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  20. redwhiteandermblue

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    I seem to remember Bale behaving with notable decency at Saints, staying an extra year when others wouldn't. He's been fantastic here, as well sigining another contract despite widespread Barca/Real speculation.
     
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