Afternoon all,
(New poster and all that....)
Reading some of the recent posts following our first 4 games, got me thinking, "OK then, how did other newly promoted teams do against the 4 sides we've played against?"
(Forgive me if this has been covered previously!!)
Looking at the past 3 years' promoted sides, we've got: (2011) QPR, Norwich, Swansea, (2010) Newcastle, WBA, Blackpool, & (2009) Wolves, Birmingham C and Burnley.
Their results were:
[table="width: 500"]
[tr]
[td][/td]
[td]Man C (a)[/td]
[td]Wigan (h)[/td]
[td]Man Utd (h)[/td]
[td]Arsenal (a)[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]QPR[/td]
[td]Lost 2-3[/td]
[td]Won 3-1[/td]
[td]Lost 0-2[/td]
[td]Lost 0-1[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Norwich[/td]
[td]Lost 1-5[/td]
[td]Drew 1-1[/td]
[td]Lost 1-2[/td]
[td]Drew 3-3[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Swansea[/td]
[td]Lost 0-4[/td]
[td]Drew 0-0[/td]
[td]Lost 0-1[/td]
[td]Lost 0-1[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Newcastle[/td]
[td]Lost 1-2[/td]
[td]Drew 2-2[/td]
[td]Drew 0-0[/td]
[td]Won 1-0[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]WBA[/td]
[td]Lost 0-3[/td]
[td]Drew 2-2[/td]
[td]Lost 1-2[/td]
[td]Won 3-2[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]B'Pool[/td]
[td]Lost 0-1[/td]
[td]Lost 1-3[/td]
[td]Lost 2-3[/td]
[td]Lost 0-6[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Wolves[/td]
[td]Lost 0-1[/td]
[td]Lost 0-2[/td]
[td]Lost 0-1[/td]
[td]Lost 0-1[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Birmingham[/td]
[td]Lost 1-5[/td]
[td]Won 1-0[/td]
[td]Drew 1-1[/td]
[td]Lost 1-3[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Burnley[/td]
[td]Drew 3-3[/td]
[td]Won 3-1[/td]
[td]Won 1-0[/td]
[td]Lost 1-3[/td]
[/tr]
[/table]
Putting this into a league table and adding our current season.....
[table="width: 500"]
[tr] [td]Team[/td]
[td]Pl[/td]
[td]W[/td]
[td]D[/td]
[td]L[/td]
[td]F[/td]
[td]A[/td]
[td]G.D.[/td]
[td]Pts[/td]
[td]End of season[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Burnley[/td]
[td]4[/td]
[td]2[/td]
[td]1[/td]
[td]1[/td]
[td]8[/td]
[td]7[/td]
[td]1[/td]
[td]7[/td]
[td]Relegated[/td] [/tr]
[tr][td]Newcastle Utd.[/td]
[td]4[/td]
[td]1[/td]
[td]2[/td]
[td]1[/td]
[td]4[/td]
[td]4[/td]
[td]0[/td]
[td]5[/td]
[td]Stayed up[/td][/tr]
[tr]
[td]WBA[/td]
[td]4[/td]
[td]1[/td]
[td]1[/td]
[td]2[/td]
[td]6[/td]
[td]9[/td]
[td]-3[/td]
[td]4[/td]
[td]Stayed up[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]B'ham City[/td]
[td]4[/td]
[td]1[/td]
[td]1[/td]
[td]2[/td]
[td]4[/td]
[td]9[/td]
[td]-5[/td]
[td]4[/td]
[td]Stayed up[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]QPR[/td]
[td]4[/td]
[td]1[/td]
[td]0[/td]
[td]3[/td]
[td]5[/td]
[td]7[/td]
[td]-2[/td]
[td]3[/td]
[td]Stayed up[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Norwich[/td]
[td]4[/td]
[td]0[/td]
[td]2[/td]
[td]2[/td]
[td]6[/td]
[td]11[/td]
[td]-5[/td]
[td]2[/td]
[td]Stayed up[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Swansea[/td]
[td]4[/td]
[td]0[/td]
[td]1[/td]
[td]3[/td]
[td]0[/td]
[td]6[/td]
[td]-6[/td]
[td]1[/td]
[td]Stayed up[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Wolves[/td]
[td]4[/td]
[td]0[/td]
[td]0[/td]
[td]4[/td]
[td]0[/td]
[td]5[/td]
[td]-5[/td]
[td]0[/td]
[td]Stayed up[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]SAINTS[/td]
[td]4[/td]
[td]0[/td]
[td]0[/td]
[td]4[/td]
[td]5[/td]
[td]14[/td]
[td]-9[/td]
[td]0[/td]
[td]??[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Blackpool[/td]
[td]4[/td]
[td]0[/td]
[td]0[/td]
[td]4[/td]
[td]3[/td]
[td]13[/td]
[td]-10[/td]
[td]0[/td]
[td]Relegated[/td]
[/tr]
[/table]
Admittedly this isn't an exact science (i.e. it makes no account for fatigue/momentum during a season/weakened teams during a cup run etc), but it's interesting that the team at the top of the mini-league ended up getting relegated (as did the one at the bottom).
Whereas the team just above us on goal difference stayed up.
It looks like NA's right. It's the next 34 games that define our season.
(Fingers-crossed I won't be saying "33 games" next week!!
)
Cheers
LSN.
(New poster and all that....)
Reading some of the recent posts following our first 4 games, got me thinking, "OK then, how did other newly promoted teams do against the 4 sides we've played against?"
(Forgive me if this has been covered previously!!)
Looking at the past 3 years' promoted sides, we've got: (2011) QPR, Norwich, Swansea, (2010) Newcastle, WBA, Blackpool, & (2009) Wolves, Birmingham C and Burnley.
Their results were:
[table="width: 500"]
[tr]
[td][/td]
[td]Man C (a)[/td]
[td]Wigan (h)[/td]
[td]Man Utd (h)[/td]
[td]Arsenal (a)[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]QPR[/td]
[td]Lost 2-3[/td]
[td]Won 3-1[/td]
[td]Lost 0-2[/td]
[td]Lost 0-1[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Norwich[/td]
[td]Lost 1-5[/td]
[td]Drew 1-1[/td]
[td]Lost 1-2[/td]
[td]Drew 3-3[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Swansea[/td]
[td]Lost 0-4[/td]
[td]Drew 0-0[/td]
[td]Lost 0-1[/td]
[td]Lost 0-1[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Newcastle[/td]
[td]Lost 1-2[/td]
[td]Drew 2-2[/td]
[td]Drew 0-0[/td]
[td]Won 1-0[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]WBA[/td]
[td]Lost 0-3[/td]
[td]Drew 2-2[/td]
[td]Lost 1-2[/td]
[td]Won 3-2[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]B'Pool[/td]
[td]Lost 0-1[/td]
[td]Lost 1-3[/td]
[td]Lost 2-3[/td]
[td]Lost 0-6[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Wolves[/td]
[td]Lost 0-1[/td]
[td]Lost 0-2[/td]
[td]Lost 0-1[/td]
[td]Lost 0-1[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Birmingham[/td]
[td]Lost 1-5[/td]
[td]Won 1-0[/td]
[td]Drew 1-1[/td]
[td]Lost 1-3[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Burnley[/td]
[td]Drew 3-3[/td]
[td]Won 3-1[/td]
[td]Won 1-0[/td]
[td]Lost 1-3[/td]
[/tr]
[/table]
Putting this into a league table and adding our current season.....
[table="width: 500"]
[tr] [td]Team[/td]
[td]Pl[/td]
[td]W[/td]
[td]D[/td]
[td]L[/td]
[td]F[/td]
[td]A[/td]
[td]G.D.[/td]
[td]Pts[/td]
[td]End of season[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Burnley[/td]
[td]4[/td]
[td]2[/td]
[td]1[/td]
[td]1[/td]
[td]8[/td]
[td]7[/td]
[td]1[/td]
[td]7[/td]
[td]Relegated[/td] [/tr]
[tr][td]Newcastle Utd.[/td]
[td]4[/td]
[td]1[/td]
[td]2[/td]
[td]1[/td]
[td]4[/td]
[td]4[/td]
[td]0[/td]
[td]5[/td]
[td]Stayed up[/td][/tr]
[tr]
[td]WBA[/td]
[td]4[/td]
[td]1[/td]
[td]1[/td]
[td]2[/td]
[td]6[/td]
[td]9[/td]
[td]-3[/td]
[td]4[/td]
[td]Stayed up[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]B'ham City[/td]
[td]4[/td]
[td]1[/td]
[td]1[/td]
[td]2[/td]
[td]4[/td]
[td]9[/td]
[td]-5[/td]
[td]4[/td]
[td]Stayed up[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]QPR[/td]
[td]4[/td]
[td]1[/td]
[td]0[/td]
[td]3[/td]
[td]5[/td]
[td]7[/td]
[td]-2[/td]
[td]3[/td]
[td]Stayed up[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Norwich[/td]
[td]4[/td]
[td]0[/td]
[td]2[/td]
[td]2[/td]
[td]6[/td]
[td]11[/td]
[td]-5[/td]
[td]2[/td]
[td]Stayed up[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Swansea[/td]
[td]4[/td]
[td]0[/td]
[td]1[/td]
[td]3[/td]
[td]0[/td]
[td]6[/td]
[td]-6[/td]
[td]1[/td]
[td]Stayed up[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Wolves[/td]
[td]4[/td]
[td]0[/td]
[td]0[/td]
[td]4[/td]
[td]0[/td]
[td]5[/td]
[td]-5[/td]
[td]0[/td]
[td]Stayed up[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]SAINTS[/td]
[td]4[/td]
[td]0[/td]
[td]0[/td]
[td]4[/td]
[td]5[/td]
[td]14[/td]
[td]-9[/td]
[td]0[/td]
[td]??[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Blackpool[/td]
[td]4[/td]
[td]0[/td]
[td]0[/td]
[td]4[/td]
[td]3[/td]
[td]13[/td]
[td]-10[/td]
[td]0[/td]
[td]Relegated[/td]
[/tr]
[/table]
Admittedly this isn't an exact science (i.e. it makes no account for fatigue/momentum during a season/weakened teams during a cup run etc), but it's interesting that the team at the top of the mini-league ended up getting relegated (as did the one at the bottom).
Whereas the team just above us on goal difference stayed up.
It looks like NA's right. It's the next 34 games that define our season.
(Fingers-crossed I won't be saying "33 games" next week!!
Cheers
LSN.


