there is a report in the Daily fail today that the chairmen of the PL clubs are meeting the fa to implement a system like the eufa one,the proposal came from Man utd,wonder why?
ffp for pl
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great idea if they can bash something out. The money in football is ridiculous and spoiling it.
Do i think they'll achieve anything? Hmmmm, doubtful.
The fact that the chairmen are meeting suggest there must be interest in such a thing though, which is encouraging.
Were there any more details on what they were proposing?
Do i think they'll achieve anything? Hmmmm, doubtful.
The fact that the chairmen are meeting suggest there must be interest in such a thing though, which is encouraging.
Were there any more details on what they were proposing?
To nobody's great surprise, I suspect. Man Utd's David Gill has issued a proposal that FFP rules be introduced ASAP into the Premiership. You obviously don't need a pipe and deerstalker to work out what their main motivation is, however, Dave Whelan thinks this proposal will garner a lot of support.
http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896...ter-financial-controls-in?source=breakingnews
http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896...ter-financial-controls-in?source=breakingnews
If it's introduced I wonder how it will impact on us.
Our level of income is about the 6th best in the country, by getting CL and winning the title City will have overtaken us now.
We're probably about the 6th best team in the country too, so it seems that even without FFP we're hitting the sort of mark you'd expect.
If you run the interactive stats in this article
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...l-health-of-the-Premier-League-laid-bare.html
by income, you'll see in 2010-11 we had the fifth highest income and finished fifth.
As I say last season, City would have pushed us into 6th place, so league-wise we over-performed there, but clearly overall Chelsea easily outperformed us.
The big gainers it would appear, if spending was tied to income, would be Arsenal and Man U. Though, things would undoubtedly be far more complicated than that, as is indicated by the current 'progress' of the UEFA rules.
Our level of income is about the 6th best in the country, by getting CL and winning the title City will have overtaken us now.
We're probably about the 6th best team in the country too, so it seems that even without FFP we're hitting the sort of mark you'd expect.
If you run the interactive stats in this article
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...l-health-of-the-Premier-League-laid-bare.html
by income, you'll see in 2010-11 we had the fifth highest income and finished fifth.
As I say last season, City would have pushed us into 6th place, so league-wise we over-performed there, but clearly overall Chelsea easily outperformed us.
The big gainers it would appear, if spending was tied to income, would be Arsenal and Man U. Though, things would undoubtedly be far more complicated than that, as is indicated by the current 'progress' of the UEFA rules.
Does the vote need to be unanimous or a simple majority? City, Chelsea and QPR will always vote against.
Rankings by season
Rank in
2010–11 Club Revenue
(€ million) Country Rank in
2009–10 Mvmt
1 Real Madrid 479.5 Spain 1 —
2 Barcelona 450.7 Spain 2 —
3 Manchester United 367.0 England 3 —
4 Bayern Munich 321.4 Germany 4 —
5 Arsenal 251.1 England 5 —
6 Chelsea 249.8 England 6 —
7 Milan 235.1 Italy 7 —
8 Internazionale 211.4 Italy 9 +1
9 Liverpool 203.3 England 8 −1
10 Schalke 04 202.4 Germany 16 +6
11 Tottenham Hotspur 181.0 England 12 +1
12 Manchester City 169.6 England 11 −1
13 Juventus 153.9 Italy 10 −3
14 Marseille 150.4 France 15 +1
15 Roma 143.5 Italy 18 +3
16 Borussia Dortmund 138.5 Germany 22 +6
17 Lyon 132.8 France 14 −3
18 Hamburg 128.8 Germany 13 −5
19 Valencia 116.8 Spain 25 +6
20 Napoli 114.9 Italy 29 +9
Rank in
2010–11 Club Revenue
(€ million) Country Rank in
2009–10 Mvmt
1 Real Madrid 479.5 Spain 1 —
2 Barcelona 450.7 Spain 2 —
3 Manchester United 367.0 England 3 —
4 Bayern Munich 321.4 Germany 4 —
5 Arsenal 251.1 England 5 —
6 Chelsea 249.8 England 6 —
7 Milan 235.1 Italy 7 —
8 Internazionale 211.4 Italy 9 +1
9 Liverpool 203.3 England 8 −1
10 Schalke 04 202.4 Germany 16 +6
11 Tottenham Hotspur 181.0 England 12 +1
12 Manchester City 169.6 England 11 −1
13 Juventus 153.9 Italy 10 −3
14 Marseille 150.4 France 15 +1
15 Roma 143.5 Italy 18 +3
16 Borussia Dortmund 138.5 Germany 22 +6
17 Lyon 132.8 France 14 −3
18 Hamburg 128.8 Germany 13 −5
19 Valencia 116.8 Spain 25 +6
20 Napoli 114.9 Italy 29 +9
it'll be interesting to see what the outcome is.
These tycoons thrive on being "the best" and literally being a human superpower. I'd like to see how much interest these people still have when they can't just use money as a solution. i can see them becoming bored, very quickly. and that won't be good for some...
These tycoons thrive on being "the best" and literally being a human superpower. I'd like to see how much interest these people still have when they can't just use money as a solution. i can see them becoming bored, very quickly. and that won't be good for some...
Funny that Bacon Face wasn't calling for them ten years ago - before Chelsea and Man City overtook them as the richest Premier League club...
I'm not sure how Premiership voting rules go. At the moment, it's merely a proposal. However, as Whelan says, it will garner considerable support - except from the obvious places. I'm all for it, in principle. But obviously, most will wait until they see the fine details on any proposal. I can't believe that it would need 100% support, or Gill would never have suggested it.
I think it's just the Prem they're talking about. Evidently, their are already rules in The Championship on this matter.so, I read anyway.
I don't think City would be able to maintain their current position, but unfortunatly I think Roman has kept Chelsea good for long enough to establish a large fan base beyond London, and would not be too far away from where they are now. They would need a new ground though, but I don't think FFP rules count for such things.
It's also impossible to say, Roman Abromovich flags can't sponsor Chelsea's corner flags, and sign a deal making the plastic flags the fans wave around for £100m a year.
As much as I dislike the fact Chelsea and City are where they are because of Sugar Daddy's, I don't want a return to utd winning all the time. Atm we have a three horse race, when have we ever had that in the Prem era? it's been either the goons n utd, or chelsea n utd untill now (ignoring Blackburns one good year).
FFP is good if it brings balance, not if it restores UTD's dominance.
Odd that Utd only seem to be making a concerted effort to get this sort of thing in AFTER they've just spent £24 mill on RVP....
What was wrong with that transfer, did they not pay using money they have generated?
UTD (and their shareholders) feel they are missing out because of an un-fairness they believe can be remedied with a change in the Prem laws, which is fair enough. Though I feel it's slightly un-realistic to be able to claim the Prem as the best in the world (whilst sneering at the two team dominance of SPL and la liga) with only one team winning all the time.
Last 20 years (or Prem era)
Utd 12 titles
Chelsea 3 titles
Arsenal 3 titles
Blackburn 1 titles
Man City 1 ttiles
I think it would be a great idea not just for the clubs but I think for the national team aswell. Think about it clubs would have to concentrate more on homegrown players and their youth squads which in the long run will benefit the national side as they won't be able to spend millions on overseas players!
In my view, any proposed legislation would have to be comprehensive enough to forbid any such obviously incestuous " sponsorship" deals.