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  1. ----HistoryRepeating----

    ----HistoryRepeating---- Well-Known Member

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    Ahhh, so thats why nobody else is interested in this player. Freaking grief.
     
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    ----HistoryRepeating----, Aug 27, 2012
  2. ollysaints1

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    Any chance that the journalists working for smaller newspapers are making stuff up to try and sell more copies?
     
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    ollysaints1, Aug 27, 2012
  3. - Doing The Lambert Walk

    - Doing The Lambert Walk Well-Known Member

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    DL_corriere: @Saintsareback @RossiSFC @7pickett75 penarol just doesn't want to lose its money in the future

    DL_corriere: @RossiSFC @Saintsareback @7pickett75 @tancredipalmeri still no agreement with penarol. deal completed = ramirez 100% saints
     
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  4. - Doing The Lambert Walk

    - Doing The Lambert Walk Well-Known Member

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    Someone over on SaintsWeb has summarised:


    Penarol or whoever can only follow the conditions in the contract they had with Bologna. They are allowed a percentage of further transfer fees but they have no power of negotiation. FIFA does not allow multiple owners as demonstrated in the Tevez case for expressly this purpose..

    So what ever that contract states will be the rate and Penarol can do nothing about that. This 5% may be a commission to FIFA (as all monies have to go through FIFA). It may be something to do with what is regarded as the actual fee. This will be explicit in the contract and something FIFA can rule on very quickly. Even if this is not explicit it will then fall to the simplest definition and go forward on that basis. Penarol can delay things in the short term but this can be easily adjudicated by FIFA.

    In previous cases of sell on fee disagreements it's between the selling club and FIFA. I am pretty sure Penarol cannot stop this going through and Saints just need to pay the Penarol share to FIFA for this to go through. FIFA may adjudicate we have to pay that little more but I really doubt this. The FIFA rules are specifically designed to stop this sort of thing happening, hence why you cannot have more than one owner but you can have contractual sell on fees.
     
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    - Doing The Lambert Walk, Aug 27, 2012
  5. Piri Weepu

    Piri Weepu Well-Known Member

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    Don't think this has any significance, but Penarol have a player called Enrique BOLOGNA. No word of a lie. Carry on
     
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    Piri Weepu, Aug 27, 2012
  6. ollysaints1

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    basically penarol have a 30% entitlement to whatever Bologna receive for the player, hence why Bologna wanted more money from us (the initial hold up).
     
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    ollysaints1, Aug 27, 2012
  7. - Doing The Lambert Walk

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    From Tancredi Palmeri:


    For Ramirez, apparently still 600k € to define before deal done between Southampton and Bologna is done.Money to be payed to Penarol
     
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  8. mightysouthampton

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    I can understand Cortese's steady up if he hasn't already agreed the 30% sell on clause. That is a pretty hefty amount to lose in a potential deal. I'm guessing Cortese is running situations through his head, relegation and sale at the end of this season etc.
     
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    mightysouthampton, Aug 27, 2012
  9. Saints Fan4Life

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    Am i the only one slightly confused by it all?
     
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    Saints Fan4Life, Aug 27, 2012
  10. mightysouthampton

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    Someone's been on the ol' wiki I'm guessing ;)
     
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    mightysouthampton, Aug 27, 2012

  11. Saint Steve

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    No, 1 minutes it's done, then I watch a film and it's off. Roll on 11pm Friday.
     
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    Saint Steve, Aug 27, 2012
  12. Piri Weepu

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    My domestic Uruguayan football league knowledge doesn't need wiki ;)
     
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    Piri Weepu, Aug 27, 2012
  13. fran-MLs little camera

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    Not sure anything really changes, but we become aware of it. Cortese is probably clear about it and trying to sort it out. It's just the papers/twitter releasing little bits of info that make it appear the situation is sorted and then not sorted. Nicola is acting on a complete narrative and we're judging on post-it notes.
     
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    fran-MLs little camera, Aug 27, 2012
  14. ThatThereSaintsFan

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    I can't believe we're going to sign him, my hopes are officially up :) although I did go out on a limb and say we'd sign him around the same time as DTLW did.
     
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    ThatThereSaintsFan, Aug 27, 2012
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    Marcelo Decaux - Uruguayan reporter based in Montevideo:

    # Peñarol receive about U.S. $ 2.5 million by the Gastón Ramírez pass to # Southampton in England.
     
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  16. fran-MLs little camera

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    That's peanuts...nowhere near 30% of 14 million euros.
     
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    fran-MLs little camera, Aug 27, 2012
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    Well he's a reporter for El Observador, I'll try and see if I can find out any more.
     
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  18. Ronnie Hotdog (MLsfc)

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    The pressure saints fans will put on this young lads shoulders is immense. Just remember he is only 21 and new to the english game. Still a great player though and will be vital in our survival
     
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    Ronnie Hotdog (MLsfc), Aug 27, 2012
  19. S-Clarke

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    That's a bit of a generalization I think, I won't be putting him under any pressure that's for sure.

    He'll need to take some time to adjust, but I think we can be safe in the knowledge that we are getting one of the brightest young talents in world football. I tell you what, it makes a change from selling them doesn't it?
     
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  20. mightysouthampton

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    Have recieved or are wanting I wonder.
     
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