The clubs would have voted rangers back in the spl cause they need the money. It was fan pressure that forced them to vote against as they were going to lose even more money. So if rangers had acted differently then apart from Celtic, you could have convinced the rest to vote you back in. Rangers acted as if you should be grateful that you even get to play against them and that the wee clubs don't matter. You've now learned the hard way that the wee clubs do matter. So wishing all the wee clubs get ****ed is silly and shows that you haven't learned anything. It is also a convenient scapegoat for the real problems at rangers and to what happened.
Fanny pressure rather than fan pressure methinks Sorry coefficient or not I have no sympathy whatsoever for Dundee United. It was pretty apparent that when Rangers were banned from Europe for three years this would happen. We don't hope that all the "wee teams" (if Dundee United and Aberdeen are such) "get ****ed", but you can hardly blame us for laughing when they do.
So once Motherwell get papped out for the second time and Hearts get cuffed only Celtic will be able to get some points on the board. And I for one will be supporting them. Pffffffft. When Rangers get back to the SPL, the winner of the league will be up against the champions of Andorra and The Vatican City in the '1st Pre-Preliminary Chance to get through to the official Preliminary Knockout Stages that precede the Champions League 1st Preliminary Knockout Round'.
I thought it was extremely important to clear this shameful innacuracy up so - the Arabs are Dundee Utd fans, not the team. The Terrors were humped 5-0
Deflect mode? haha, that's rich! I've already answered that, idiot Bollocks, it was always integrity over cash. That was always what was said by chairmen and fans. So what's next? IF the predicted doomsday does happen are you lot going to be on here claiming rangers fans attitudes are what cause a couple of teams to go under? Or the SPL to get noticeably poorer? Get a grip you clowns Well I assume you are referring to me, what is so delusional about what I said earlier regarding the integrity arguement? He is but he continues to talk more **** which I'm 90% he doesn't believe but is just a sad bastard with nothing else in his life so he comes on the Internet to "wind up" opposing fans. No one gets wound up, we just laugh and think he's a ****. Like your good self Nice to see you surface for some air, how is Harry's arsehole these days?...
sorry chapper i should have replied with quotes, especially as my post was late. The quote above is what I was referring to, your fans came across as the most despicable element of Scottish football society during this whole episode and if the decent supporters among you (if you are one of those, I assume you are and you choose to frequent these boards because you're not completely intolerant) were to at least accept this and perhaps even condemn it then the majority of 'other' football fans may have had a little more sensitivity to your plight. Instead all we got was Sandy Jardine and Bomber Brown perpetrating the nonsense that your club was the innocent victim of a vile conspiracy to 'punish' the club for no reason.
Seriously, what is with you lot and your need to constantly go on the Internet to repeat the same ****e, lies and twisted logic to other rolls you don't even know? Many of you claim to have "good rangers mates" do you hit them with the same repeated ****e everytime you see them? What is the point? To make yourselves feel better about your life or team? It's sad and pathetic. You say despicable? And yet you've chosen to skip past the bit I said about petrol bombing cars, death threats to players, assaulting players, assaulting referee's, assaulting stewards do I need to go on? The facts are that throughout the whole affair the mantra was integrity over money and don't even try to kid yourselves that if it was the otherway round your team would have been kept in SPL etc! Booooooriiiiiiiiiiiing....
Let's be clear here chapper, when it comes to nutters making threats or assaulting people/players or managers,then no one can claim to be whiter than white and if Celtic were also needing a vote to let them in - then I doubt those would have been factors in the minds of the SPL chairmen. No one voted against Rangers because of their fans' behaviour, the various Chairmen were motivated in part to mark a "No" on their voting papers due to people from Rangers looking somewhat less than contrite (or even remorseful) for the mess that Rangers caused. I did not expect Sandy Jardine, Ally McCoist, Charles Green or Malcolm Murray to supplicate themselves outside Hampden in sackcloth and ashes, but it would certainly have not harmed their case to apologise and actually appear to be sincere.
You've answered nothing Do you think that the arrogance and threats that came from Rangers fans and employees during the End Days of Rangers had no effect on how every club in Scotland voted? And who did Celtic fans petrol bomb, threaten with death, assault etc? Was this when our club faced extinction?
First of all there is no dispute in my mind over what this has all been about, nor do I think, yours (now at least). What I am referring to is your willingness to deny the actions of individuals associated with your club since this all began. I'm not just talking about the average fan, official representatives of Rangers have portrayed the club in a poor light. Ally McCoist publicly demanded the exposure of an SFA disciplinary panel that punished Rangers for bringing the game into disrepute even though he already knew the identity of the individuals. This resulted in the SFA Disciplinary panel receiving death threats from disgruntled supporters and one club being told their stadium would be burned to the ground. To date there has been no apology, nor any indication of retraction of ther statement that resulted in these outrages, from Ally McCoist. Stewart Regan, SFA Chairman, received death threats from Rangers supporters over the handling of the demise of RFC in recent months. There have been rallying cries from the likes of Sandy Jardine and 'Bomber' Brown who wooed the fans by stating their hope some clubs will go into administration for their treatment of Rangers and they exacerbated an already explosive situation by demanding boycotts of away games at one point. Now back to your points. You are obviously referring to events from an earlier period and while I don't use that as an excuse or a mitigating factor for some of the repulsive acts perpetrated by some of the morons on our side I repeat my reference to this episode (call it Feb till July or Admin till Liquidation, you know what period i mean). Otherwise I'd be reminding you that last season two of your fans sent parcel bombs to three prominent members of the Celtic family. I'd also be reminding you, if I wanted to go back that far, that your fans rioted in Manchester and disgraced the name of your Club in the eyes of the world. Not to mention the UEFA fines and suspended sanctions for the extreme right wing nature of your fan base and general sectarian singing in Europe. I could go on but I won't because you made valid points and so have I. We both have a rotten element of support at our respective clubs but I truly believe that we have come closer to eradicating it (though we haven't quite got there yet) than Rangers. The most recent events of our respective histories would seem to support that conclusion. I anticipate you will think we would have acted much the same as Rangers supporters have if the boot was on the other foot. I don't think so and our restraint in recent years despite the failures - yes failures - on the pitch is more evidence the typical Celtic supporter is more civilised than the typical Rangers supporter. More self policing is required by your lot I think. And more tolerance. One final thing I want to put across is that you ahve the chance to build a new club that will make you and your families proud. Don't let it be blighted by bigotry. We will always hate each other because of the history but Celtic has (mostly) brought its support into the 21st Century and I think The New Rangers should as well.
Good point. It's a waste of time even trying to debate with these narrow minded hate filled "fans" Can't even speak the truth. As said above, bored and no amount of debating will change you bitter outlook so, good day!
