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Talking rubbish! your own Kop did a survey of fans, Approximately 8000 of your fans participated. 73% of voters chose Allen ahead of Henderson!................ <ok>

Go and look on fan sites, youtube comments, forums, even the Not 606 Liverpool board, football websites like goal.com... The Allen transfer is hotly debated right now and it's not positive (mainly due to ignorance I feel).

There are loads of popular Liverpool fan sites, which one do you mean? I think you can trust me to be more in tune with my own club's fanbase than you are, especially if you're basing your spiel on one online survey.

A lot of people want to see Henderson partner Lucas and Gerrard. A lot want to see Shelvey partner Lucas and Gerrard. Some want Henderson, Lucas, Shelvey. Some even want either Charlie Adam or our teenage sensation Suso to start. You're simply wrong, I'm sorry.
 
Problem with Shelvey (according to our local press) is that Laudrup doesn't want him. May be true, don't know. Don't shoot the messenger.
 
People keep talking about the money, yes £15m is alot to us, but the crucial thing is keeping as much continuity in the team as possible right now, for example if Brenden was still here i would be far more happier letting one or two good players move on,the continuity would roughly be the same.

We have a new manager and 3 new players that nobody knows will work out,there will also be squad players moving on, this equates to unstability, which is something we can do without right now, what a new manager needs to work from is all the previous component parts, then he canmake adjustments to suit his own style.
We must remember that this season has added bite because of the new TV deal, there is an extra £20m coming into the club if we stay up!! surely its far better to go for prem survival with your best assets at your disposal ??
The club can tell joe he will get his move either in January(if we accumalate a good number of points) or next summer regardless of where we finish, at least then we have given ourselves the best chance possible to stay in this league using the best players we can, selling off one of our best players doesnt automatically mean the money will be better used elsewhere.

if you want a good example try Arsenal, sure they are still a great team but they havent won anything since selling good players every year!! of course our mission is to stay in the premier league but at this crucial time i think its wise to persuede him to stay for at least one more season,then give him his move if he wishes, i wouldnt mind us giving him a pay rise either if it meant we can keep him here.

Anybody see the Liverpool v Roma game last night?? oh dear, Brendn has got his work cut out bringing in the new style, i can see why he has stabbed us in the back,its because he realises he wont have the time to implement his ideas quickly and effectively . Cue the move for Joe and probably other swans past or present <ok>
 
People keep talking about the money, yes £15m is alot to us, but the crucial thing is keeping as much continuity in the team as possible right now, for example if Brenden was still here i would be far more happier letting one or two good players move on,the continuity would roughly be the same.

We have a new manager and 3 new players that nobody knows will work out,there will also be squad players moving on, this equates to unstability, which is something we can do without right now, what a new manager needs to work from is all the previous component parts, then he canmake adjustments to suit his own style.
We must remember that this season has added bite because of the new TV deal, there is an extra £20m coming into the club if we stay up!! surely its far better to go for prem survival with your best assets at your disposal ??
The club can tell joe he will get his move either in January(if we accumalate a good number of points) or next summer regardless of where we finish, at least then we have given ourselves the best chance possible to stay in this league using the best players we can, selling off one of our best players doesnt automatically mean the money will be better used elsewhere.

if you want a good example try Arsenal, sure they are still a great team but they havent won anything since selling good players every year!! of course our mission is to stay in the premier league but at this crucial time i think its wise to persuede him to stay for at least one more season,then give him his move if he wishes, i wouldnt mind us giving him a pay rise either if it meant we can keep him here.

Anybody see the Liverpool v Roma game last night?? oh dear, Brendn has got his work cut out bringing in the new style, i can see why he has stabbed us in the back,its because he realises he wont have the time to implement his ideas quickly and effectively . Cue the move for Joe and probably other swans past or present <ok>

Did you see the sides Roma played?

It was our teenagers against their regulars!
 
As mentioned above if you actually see the interviews on swans player you will see he was talking generally. He also said that of course you want to keep your best players!! ML could well fall into the trap of just being a normal straight ahead guy who wnswers questions with no frills, the problem with that is that the media need to twist the words to make a sensational headline. Brendne was loved by the media boys because he gave them plenty of soundbites, Laudrup just says it like it is and keeps it simple.

Dont read too much into the press reports when laudrup is interviewed, try and see the actually interview and it will be far more positive and make perfect sense :)
 
Go and look on fan sites, youtube comments, forums, even the Not 606 Liverpool board, football websites like goal.com... The Allen transfer is hotly debated right now and it's not positive (mainly due to ignorance I feel).

There are loads of popular Liverpool fan sites, which one do you mean? I think you can trust me to be more in tune with my own club's fanbase than you are, especially if you're basing your spiel on one online survey.

A lot of people want to see Henderson partner Lucas and Gerrard. A lot want to see Shelvey partner Lucas and Gerrard. Some want Henderson, Lucas, Shelvey. Some even want either Charlie Adam or our teenage sensation Suso to start. You're simply wrong, I'm sorry.

I think we'd all be grateful if you could bring BR's attention to these soft poll results and get him to refocus on what he's already got in his squad.
 
He'd be good wherever he went but could really do a job for Liverpool. Sad to see him go but if that's what he wants. Now pay up. <ok>
 
I had the good fortune to speak with Mel Nurse at the Centenary Dinner last week. His opinion for what it's worth (expressed in my own words) is that new managers and new players, regardless of their best intent not to change, implicitly mean that changes happen on the field, style adjustments take place naturally, and he gave me some very valid examples not Swans related and the consequences thereof.

If we lose Allen, we will not be same team we were last season where we had tremendous consistency in who started the games. BR's departure and ML's arrival means that things have already changed on the field without player departures. These changes and resulting adjustments will take a toll - of course, it all may just click beautifully - but any specific change (Allen's absence is not an insignificant change, otherwise why would Liverpool be so keen to get him) requires an adjustment by the whole team, it's a ripple out effect. Allen is at the heart of our midfield engine, you might say is our midfield engine or at least 50% of it.

Clubs that play in the Premier League and are not Premier League clubs are, for example, Wigan. Wigan sells their best players on a fairly regular basis, they have infusions of cash on a fairly regular basis, they struggle to survive each season at the last gasp because the manager pulls some miracle out of his rear end. There's no good future in being one of these clubs, just a continuous courting of misery and the risk of a drop back into Cardiff land - and if you want to see players leave, then that will cause them to leave as a stampede. The only viable future is to become a Premier League club .... and that means we fight to retain players like Allen. If we lose the fight, yes we get cash, but cash didn't get us the 29 goals we lost with the exit of Scotland - it got us Pintardo, Beattie, Kuqi and very, very few goals ..... get the picture, it's ugly.

Money does not compensate for these changes.

Good points raised there Yankee. <cheers>
 
Nobody WANTS to sell our best players - that's what some here seem to think but it's not the case at all. My argument is that it's all down to the player. The alternative to cashing in is keeping an unhappy player until his contract runs down. You can debate the issue all day but the bottom line is that if a player wants to go then he should do so and the club should get as much for him as possible.
 
Don't mention my wife in any shape or form you fcuking bellend. You are a ****er of the highest order and you've been rumbled.

Norway can create as many threads as he likes bit it still won't be as much as you did when Rodgers left.

Apologies to Liverpool fans, in case you don't know Casual Fan is really a Cardiff fan in disguise.
 
As iv said a few times, if Joe asks to leave, then we sell him. If he doesnt, we turn down any offers. We cant afford to be playing four new players next season, too much change and coukd backfire.
 
I agree, JA. Don't think we'll be selling any players that don't want to go.
 
Yes , and that certainly puts to bed any ideas you have of sending your talented youngsters to us ..<laugh>

Well, they played decently for the most part. Suso, Sterling, Pacheco, Shelvey, McLaughlin and Morgan were all pretty decent.

It was 2-1, we typically hit the bar and had several great chances, it's as if last season never ended!
 
Not bad for youngsters against a good Roma side. Some are a bit one-eyed over here NI. <sorry>
 
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