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Agreed I like the BBC (specially the no advert part) but it's standard is slipping. That's why I can see it starting adverts in a few years.

Will never, ever happen. The BBC's independence from commercial considerations, afforded to it by the licence fee, is what makes it great. If they start showing ads that will be lost, and that's not worth selling for any price.
 
Will never, ever happen. The BBC's independence from commercial considerations, afforded to it by the licence fee, is what makes it great. If they start showing ads that will be lost, and that's not worth selling for any price.

Yes, and I can't see adverts improving it. ITV, Channel 4, Channel 5, etc, etc, are infested with ads and the programming is not a patch on the BBC. Yes, the Beeb has done downhill in recent years but its content is still miles ahead of the garbage served up on the commercial channels. ITV is the televisual equivalent of The Sun newspaper.
 
Will never, ever happen. The BBC's independence from commercial considerations, afforded to it by the licence fee, is what makes it great. If they start showing ads that will be lost, and that's not worth selling for any price.

They like their product placements tho :p
 
Yes, and I can't see adverts improving it. ITV, Channel 4, Channel 5, etc, etc, are infested with ads and the programming is not a patch on the BBC. Yes, the Beeb has done downhill in recent years but its content is still miles ahead of the garbage served up on the commercial channels. ITV is the televisual equivalent of The Sun newspaper.

Do people still watch channel 5?
 
BBC from choice, but if the opportunity to watch the Saints is available I will take it and I certainly won't be ungrateful and judgemental about the quality.
 
Do people still watch channel 5?

I did once. It was mostly ad breaks with a bit of programming content in between. I once made the mistake of watching a film on C5. It was riddled with commercial breaks, so much so that I actually went to the bother of emailing to complain. I had a reply which said they hoped the ad breaks '...didn't spoil your enjoyment'. No, of course it didn't, I complained for the hell of it. Muppets. <doh>
 
I'm starting to think you're making this up as you go along! Can you give a single example of this?

Look it up, the BBC could use product placements since 2010 and have done. In the Apprentice they show Blackberrys a hell of alot as a example.
 
Look it up, the BBC can use product placements since 2010 and have done. In the Apprentice they show Blackberrys a hell of alot.

I did look it up and it's not allowed: http://www.bbc.co.uk/guidelines/edi...elines-editorial-integrity-product-placement/

They may use blackberries but that's not product placement because they're not taking money to do so. Are you suggesting they can't use any product which they are not actively advertising? Would you like the BBC to maintain its commercial independence by for example forcing all its presenters to appear in the nude in blank studios?
 
I did look it up and it's not allowed: http://www.bbc.co.uk/guidelines/edi...elines-editorial-integrity-product-placement/

They may use blackberries but that's not product placement because they're not taking money to do so. Are you suggesting they can't use any product which they are not actively advertising? Would you like the BBC to maintain its commercial independence by for example forcing all its presenters to appear in the nude in blank studios?

I'm sure I read they could do it now, but happy to admit I was wrong.
 
Nah it's fine is a debate after all, least we didn't start calling each other names etc <laugh> <ok>
 
Give it a few years and BBC will probably be getting done for hacking etc all media is corrupt.

Auntie Beeb is one of the few uniquely British things we have left. Other countries media look to the BBC as a bastion of non-political, high quality, TV & Radio output. Even their webpages are of superior quality to most others [although the spelling and grammar is often appalling]. Plus they are the only ones not crawling with trackers, widgets, and other means to hoover up your every nuance of internet movement. By all means criticise the BBC, but be proud of it too. No other country has a superior channel, and I can tell you, every TV professional would give their eye-teeth to work for it sometime in their lives.
 
Look it up, the BBC could use product placements since 2010 and have done. In the Apprentice they show Blackberrys a hell of alot as a example.

Indeed, and in last Sunday's British Grand Prix at Silverstone, Matt Roberts got 2010 World Champion and current championship leader, Jorge Lorenzo, to eat Marmite to see whether he loved it or hated it. He hated it. His personal assistant loved it so much he stole the pot. You see..? Product placement AND even-handedness. <laugh>
 
Auntie Beeb is one of the few uniquely British things we have left. Other countries media look to the BBC as a bastion of non-political, high quality, TV & Radio output. Even their webpages are of superior quality to most others [although the spelling and grammar is often appalling]. Plus they are the only ones not crawling with trackers, widgets, and other means to hoover up your every nuance of internet movement. By all means criticise the BBC, but be proud of it too. No other country has a superior channel, and I can tell you, every TV professional would give their eye-teeth to work for it sometime in their lives.

Kk ill refrase that ,alot of people that work in the media are corrupt and would do anything for a story line.
 
Ok, i'll refrase that ,alot of people that work in the media are corrupt and would do anything for a story line.

Indeed, because they're unhappily driven by the profit motive. The BBC has to break even. That's all. Luckily, it doesn't because of all the sales of programmes on DVD from BBC Enterprises. Apart from financing other projects, this helps to keep the cost of the licence fee down.
 
Passthefootball, I hope Neville keeps the punditry up, but I would imagine he'd not be about during internationals.

As for Murdoch, if we didn't have him to fear and hate and so distract us, we'd start to take notice of exactly how **** our government is and realise that it would still be corrupt and wasteful without any help. Personally, I like to think of Murdoch as having a secret base in a volcano like a Bond baddie or Dr Evil
 
BBC for me, but the cutbacks are beginning to show - although I'm told they will be actually in Ukraine and Poland from Englands game on Sunday as 'they didn't want to be seen using license payers money getting a free trip to the Euros' which is nonsense you're doing your job ignore the Daily Mail, I like Gary Neville on Sky because he speaks sense and has tactical noose but the overhype of the Premier League is slightly irritating there are other leagues in the world, because players come from those leagues to make the Prem what it is - I've no time for Murdoch since he owns The Sun and hacks into dead childrens phones (despite what what you read he doesn't fully own Sky, just the largest shareholder), and ITV's just **** in general.