England v Sweden

[QPRNUTS]

I can only imagine the reaction on here if England had lost. Your country won, you are on course to reach the quarters. Buck all else matters. Looking forward to your match against the Ukraine and the return of Rooney. For what it 's worth i would only start with Carroll if Walcott or/and OXC is playing.

 

[rangercol]

I can only imagine the reaction on here if England had lost. Your country won, you are on course to reach the quarters. Buck all else matters. Looking forward to your match against the Ukraine and the return of Rooney. For what it 's worth i would only start with Carroll if Walcott or/and OXC is playing.

It's a national past-time to knock the England football team mate. Some just like to knock their own country whatever!
I think England did really well to hold France and then come back from behind against Sweden, a country who always raise their game against the English!
This is no where near our strongest possible team, but Roy is doing well with what he's got available in this tournament!!

 

[igor60]

I did watch I was looking ... he does not flow at all and his game is very easy to read ... he trys hard but that shouldn't be confused ... Class tonight? best player on the pitch and he was ****e was Ibrahimovic by a mile

The swedes played the better football without doubt but they lost to three excellent goals. I have fallen over many good players because i was on the pitch at the same time as them and am still proud of that

How much red wine you were drinking before you wrote that brainfart? I dont say that englad played like barca but they did play better football than swedes and totally deserved their win. Ibrahimovitch was the player who stopped every one of their fast counterattacks and started to dribble with the ball as long someone was takin it away from him. He is strong and good with the ball but still highly overrated IMO. Surely he is great in serie a but outside of it he is just a another good footballer but nothing else.

 

[Flyer]

How much red wine you were drinking before you wrote that brainfart? I dont say that englad played like barca but they did play better football than swedes and totally deserved their win. Ibrahimovitch was the player who stopped every one of their fast counterattacks and started to dribble with the ball as long someone was takin it away from him. He is strong and good with the ball but still highly overrated IMO. Surely he is great in serie a but outside of it he is just a another good footballer but nothing else.

DT never stops drinking red wine, that explains his posts!

I saw someone else write on another forum that its was like a VIlla v WBA cup match and whoever goes through will lose to the 1st decent team they meet.

 

[Swords Hoopster]

It's a national past-time to knock the England football team mate. Some just like to knock their own country whatever!
I think England did really well to hold France and then come back from behind against Sweden, a country who always raise their game against the English!
This is no where near our strongest possible team, but Roy is doing well with what he's got available in this tournament!!

I agree with this. England are doing well so far.

One thing that I've noticed is every England fan interviewed on TV and Radio has a Southern accent. Maybe its coincidence but I haven't heard one single Northerner this time round. Is there a bit of a North/South divide or is it just in my head?

P.S. Oddball, you should cut COL some slack. You might disagree with him but the mans passion for the game is evident the moment you look at his posts.

 

[Dave Thomas]

How much red wine you were drinking before you wrote that brainfart? I dont say that englad played like barca but they did play better football than swedes and totally deserved their win. Ibrahimovitch was the player who stopped every one of their fast counterattacks and started to dribble with the ball as long someone was takin it away from him. He is strong and good with the ball but still highly overrated IMO. Surely he is great in serie a but outside of it he is just a another good footballer but nothing else.

I stand that regardless of a normal performance Ibrahimovic is the best player of those on show last night. This was in rely to the fact that Wellbeck is quality by COL ... Wellbeck scored a great goal don't get me wrong but he is not is the league of Ibrahimovic yet at least .. he scores a beautiful goal and all of a sudden he is fantastic ... he is isn't yet IMO and i used Ibrahimovic to compare him to Wellbeck has promise and i hope he makes it but he is well down the list of great players in my book. I agree with you that England could never play like Barca or Spain. I thought at one stage England looked the worse of all the teams in the tournament maybe not the Irish but they won and that's all that matters if you support England ... I don't and I am not knocking them for the sake of it ... their football is very very stale and without the expression required to win in style.

It's not knockout football yet and hen anything can happen and often does in a one off game ... if England get there then anything is possible ... will i change my views on how they play football ... no ... Would I follow them if they had a couple of QPR players playing .. yes

 

[QPRNUTS]

It's a national past-time to knock the England football team mate. Some just like to knock their own country whatever!
I think England did really well to hold France and then come back from behind against Sweden, a country who always raise their game against the English!
This is no where near our strongest possible team, but Roy is doing well with what he's got available in this tournament!!

Agree. I'm obviously not English and i can't put my finger on it but there seems to be something very refreshing about England at the moment. I suppose its difficult to dislike Hodgson. England had a dodgy 15 minute spell against Sweeden but other than that, they def were the better team. I think England have started well and may cause a shock or two in this tournament yet.

 

[rangercol]

I stand that regardless of a normal performance Ibrahimovic is the best player of those on show last night. This was in rely to the fact that Wellbeck is quality by COL ... Wellbeck scored a great goal don't get me wrong but he is not is the league of Ibrahimovic yet at least .. he scores a beautiful goal and all of a sudden he is fantastic ... he is isn't yet IMO and i used Ibrahimovic to compare him to Wellbeck has promise and i hope he makes it but he is well down the list of great players in my book. I agree with you that England could never play like Barca or Spain. I thought at one stage England looked the worse of all the teams in the tournament maybe not the Irish but they won and that's all that matters if you support England ... I don't and I am not knocking them for the sake of it ... their football is very very stale and without the expression required to win in style.

It's not knockout football yet and hen anything can happen and often does in a one off game ... if England get there then anything is possible ... will i change my views on how they play football ... no ... Would I follow them if they had a couple of QPR players playing .. yes

Your usual tirade of nonsense I see!
So....even if they were still playing the kind of football that offended your flair loving eye, you'd support them if they had a couple of QPR players in the team? What unbelievable, self contradictory crap!!
For the record....I never compared Wellbeck with Ibra-I'm-a-bitch or called him a "great". Wellbeck is a class act, far from the finished article, but is quick, has a good first touch and can score goals. I suspect the fact that he plays for Man Utd means some people will always be against him! If a french player had put in that back-flick you'd have been having orgasms all over your keyboard about it!! Ibra-I'm-a-bitch has a lot of ability but has often gone missing in big games. He's lazy and selfish and he slowed up a lot of Sweden's moves with his over-indulgences!!
Rooney is a far better player than Ibrahimovic!!

 

[rangercol]

Agree. I'm obviously not English and i can't put my finger on it but there seems to be something very refreshing about England at the moment. I suppose its difficult to dislike Hodgson. England had a dodgy 15 minute spell against Sweeden but other than that, they def were the better team. I think England have started well and may cause a shock or two in this tournament yet.

Hope you're right mate. England were clearly the better side apart from that dodgy 20mins......unless you were watching through Dave's biased, wonky viewpoint!!

 

[Dave Thomas]

I agree with this. England are doing well so far.

One thing that I've noticed is every England fan interviewed on TV and Radio has a Southern accent. Maybe its coincidence but I haven't heard one single Northerner this time round. Is there a bit of a North/South divide or is it just in my head?

P.S. Oddball, you should cut COL some slack. You might disagree with him but the mans passion for the game is evident the moment you look at his posts.

I think COL is a excellent poster and have no problem with him ... we are all on here to be laughed at IMO
Come to think about it I suggest you look at your own behaviour against some of the posters on here at times you are completely out of order

Hands up who has a warning from the mods?

 

[Dave Thomas]

I have also just noticed that this new Mac operating system inside Safari replaces words and adjusts sentences it thinks you are typing .. and its miles off .. just like the stupid iPhone thing ... what are Apple doing!

Apologies, I will try and switch it off

 

[Swords Hoopster]

Agree. I'm obviously not English and i can't put my finger on it but there seems to be something very refreshing about England at the moment

That's true NUTS. I think its due to the fact that the media isn't bigging them up this time and saying they're gonna steam roll the whole Tournament like they've done in times past.

COL, is it predominantly Southerners that lend their support to the Team or is it Country-Wide?

Come to think about it I suggest you look at your own behaviour against some of the posters on here at times you are completely out of order

Hands up who has a warning from the mods?

Yes but how do we know who's complaining about who? Anybody can PM a Mod. Any Tom Dick or Harry can lodge a report against a poster and they'd be none the wiser.

For all you know, you could have everyone from North to fu*king Jimbo calling for your head yet you're completely oblivious to it.

 

[Sooperhoop]

Why should anyone go running to the mods? If they can't give or take a mouthful they should take up knitting!...

 

[igor60]

Your usual tirade of nonsense I see!
So....even if they were still playing the kind of football that offended your flair loving eye, you'd support them if they had a couple of QPR players in the team? What unbelievable, self contradictory crap!!
For the record....I never compared Wellbeck with Ibra-I'm-a-bitch or called him a "great". Wellbeck is a class act, far from the finished article, but is quick, has a good first touch and can score goals. I suspect the fact that he plays for Man Utd means some people will always be against him! If a french player had put in that back-flick you'd have been having orgasms all over your keyboard about it!! Ibra-I'm-a-bitch has a lot of ability but has often gone missing in big games. He's lazy and selfish and he slowed up a lot of Sweden's moves with his over-indulgences!!
Rooney is a far better player than Ibrahimovic!!

I totally agree with you col. Rooney is far better player than ibrahimovict who is playing one day as a world top-3 player and another day like agyemang! In Champions league he has played with ajax, juventus, inter, barca and now in milan but he has managed to score only two goals on the knock-out rounds in all these seasons. Surely he is great in italy but serie A is like joke these days anyway.

 

[QPR Oslo]

Never while you're around Odders. The more you post the better this forum is.

Continue ruffling feathers my son because once you stop expressing yourself you might as well Log out for good.

Besides, I can attack you all I want and you never get angry!

All time best post I seen on here Swords! well, except perhaps from the one from Just In you are commenting on!

 

[Wonko The Sane]

Yes, I am a proud and honest WUM and consider my job or task on here to highlight with self fulfilment some of what i consider to be nonsense posted by ego's who have let it get the better of them. I am the same as anyone else I enjoy this forum and the challenges it prompts to my own very inconsistent opinions. I have turned it off in the past but found it far too enjoyable as it has replaced a hole that was filled in the past by say reading a newspaper. I will make a further pledge that I will continue to do so and contribute to the entertainment we all enjoy this will i am sure ruffle a few feathers which brings me in particular a great sense of joy into my life. I feel I contribute to the enjoyment and i am always on the look out to learn something new as I feel none of us stops learning. My viewpoints will always remain debatable as at times they are designed to expose
If the laughter goes from here then it is lost and becomes very boring ... we will all come together as the new season approaches
On England:
I love watching flair and freedom in football i call that expression and to me it's maybe why i love QPR. When you try and turn it into a super science combined with a anglo saxon culture ... it doesn't seem to work ... add on the expectation and pressure of a nation of that culture you arrive at the reason for continued failure... Sure maybe this system will eventually produce a prize even in this tournament and football may come home as the idiots put it ... Would it stay? IMO No the world has developed the game in a far more attractive way... the same could be said about things other than football ... English footballing pride has been it's own downfall . still you are only as good as your last game and England won so who knows?
If you have to take the time to think about the rules and scenarios of the competition then IMO you are lost. Win at all costs? that starts on the pitch and is in the mind of the players and collectively as a team ... all you and I can do is watch and the rest is all bollocks in some cases all three of them

The yawn was a nod to middle-class sensibilities that would belittle people for flying flags from their cars and pronounce INGERLOND as if it's a crime. It's seriously boring by now. Let people have some harmless fun and a sense of belonging without being so judgmental. It happens every two years if we're lucky. Chav's in their Corsas riding by with the Cross of Saint George flapping off the bonnet? That's the Daily Mail cliche isn't it? For me it's no more trashy or classless than moaning about your tax on an internet football forum. Who doesn't love the internet. Everyone's a millionaire and nobody can say anything to the contrary.

I also love flair and freedom in football, England has precious few players who can do both at the moment. We accept that, cut our cloth accordingly and enjoy the ride as long as it goes on.

Your job? Nobody has a "job" on here bar the mods as far as I know. "Expose"? Why? We're here to talk about football. Why would you feel you have the need to "expose" anybody?

I hope "the formation threaders" as you call them continue. They give an exile a good read on a game.

Win at all costs? It's not a Gallic thing.

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You're right of course. It's all bollocks. Long may the laughs continue.

 

[Swords Hoopster]

Reckon you've met your match there Oddball. TEL ain't for backing down.

COL won't answer my question. He must still be pissed off. Understandable.

 

[rangercol]

The yawn was a nod to middle-class sensibilities that would belittle people for flying flags from their cars and pronounce INGERLOND as if it's a crime. It's seriously boring by now. Let people have some harmless fun and a sense of belonging without being so judgmental. It happens every two years if we're lucky. Chav's in their Corsas riding by with the Cross of Saint George flapping off the bonnet? That's the Daily Mail cliche isn't it? For me it's no more trashy or classless than moaning about your tax on an internet football forum. Who doesn't love the internet. Everyone's a millionaire and nobody can say anything to the contrary.

I also love flair and freedom in football, England has precious few players who can do both at the moment. We accept that, cut our cloth accordingly and enjoy the ride as long as it goes on.

Your job? Nobody has a "job" on here bar the mods as far as I know. "Expose"? Why? We're here to talk about football. Why would you feel you have the need to "expose" anybody?

I hope "the formation threaders" as you call them continue. They give an exile a good read on a game.

Win at all costs? It's not a Gallic thing.

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You're right of course. It's all bollocks. Long may the laughs continue.

Superb post. Really, really superb!!!!

 

[rangercol]

Reckon you've met your match there Oddball. TEL ain't for backing down.

COL won't answer my question. He must still be pissed off. Understandable.

Only just seen it Swords. I think there are just as many England supporters in the North as in the South, although I have no facts to back this up.
Perhaps the economic situation at the moment is stopping a lot of people from poorer Northern areas to travel?