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Magic Laudrup 11

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How many clubs are expected to "go to the wall" if the sky deal is ripped up? According to this article it is 6 top flight teams <ok>

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/2012/0...-is-demoted-to-division-three-86908-23895647/

SKY TV are poised to tear up their £110million deal to screen Scottish football if Rangers are thrown into the Third Division.

The broadcasting giants agreed their five-year deal with the SPL on the basis of four money-spinning Old Firm clashes a year.

And sources close to talks between Sky and the SPL say without those audience-grabbing games, Sky will have no commercial reason to stay in Scotland.

But one way out could be for Rangers to be demoted to the First Division in the hope they could bounce straight back in a season.

A Sky insider said: “Three years without Rangers, while Rangers climbed from the Third Division to the Second, then the First and then the SPL, would blow the whole deal out of the water.

“If Rangers are kicked out of the SPL, the longest Sky will wait for them to return is a year.

“It’s just not worth it commercially if it’s going to be any longer than 12 months with no Old Firm league games while Rangers climb back up the leagues.

“Four Old Firm games a season is what Sky export around Britain and around the world – that’s what they pay for.

“No Rangers equals no Sky, unless Gers are back very soon.”

The Sky deal, which also involves broadcaster ESPN, is worth £16million a year to the SPL – plus at least another £6million a year from spin-offs, such as shirt sponsorships and pitchside adverts, which would collapse without TV cameras at games.

The threat to the contract emerged on Tuesday after HM Revenue and Customs – the club’s biggest creditor – refused to agree a company voluntary arrangement to bring Rangers out of administration.

Prospective buyer Charles Green will now have to form a new company to run the club as the old one go into liquidation – and the newco will have to apply for entry to the SPL.

A creditors’ meeting at Ibrox today will rubber-stamp the liquidation.

The chairmen of the other 11 SPL clubs then face an impossible dilemma.

If they allow newco Rangers to stay in the top flight, they would enrage many of their own supporters who want to see the club hammered.

Some fans are even threatening to boycott their own teams if the punishment is not severe enough.

But if the chairmen fall into line with their fans and send the new Rangers to the Third Division, they risk financial meltdown.

There are profound fears that six current top-flight clubs could go to the wall without TV money – and that could kill the Scottish game.

The only room for compromise, sources say, would be for Rangers to be demoted only to the First Division. They would be expected to fight their way back to the top flight the following year.

And Sky hope a one-division relegation option would satisfy the desire to hammer the newco for the sins of Craig Whyte, without crippling the SPL.

The SPL are expected to announce a date for a crucial debate and vote on Rangers in the next few days.

Eight of 12 SPL clubs would be required to vote to relegate Rangers to a lower league, if the lower leagues would accept the Ibrox side. The showdown will come before the SPL AGM in mid-July.

The Sky insider said: “Sky have a duty to get a return on the investment they have made.

“It’s not about an agenda against one side of the Old Firm – it’s a business case.Advertising revenues, particularly from Old Firm matches, would be severely affected. Old Firm matches have the potential of bringing in more than a million viewers.

“Taking such matches out of the equation is very damaging. They would be prepared to wear it for a year but any longer would not be viable.”

The TV deal with Sky and ESPN ensures that the SPL are given a pot of £80million over five years.

The cash is paid to the SPL, who take their cut for running costs before distributing most of the cash between their 12 clubs. Clubs in the lower leagues get a total of £2million between them from the deal.

This season, Dundee United, for example, received £1.4million from the SPL. But bosses believe the sum would be reduced to a mere £200,000 if the TV deal blows up.

In an online poll, 97 per cent of Aberdeen fans voted against Rangers being allowed into the SPL as a newco. And the feeling is equally strong in other clubs.

Rival supporters believe that the huge wages paid by Rangers to stars such as Paul Gascoigne and Brian Laudrup bought the club their honours – and were only possible through an unsustainable business model.

They are determined Rangers should face sanctions to stop other clubs doing the same.

Last month, the SFA banned Rangers from making any new signings and fined them £100,000 for bringing the game into disrepute.

A judge later ruled the SFA acted beyond their powers in imposing a year-long transfer ban – meaning that the SFA could now impose an even more severe penalty.
 
"A Sky insider..."

That's me convinced.

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I can see clubs getting into financial trouble is Rangers get booted out the SPL.

But at the end of the day Sky don't run Scottish Football, we've got by without Sky before and we'll manage again.

All this "The SPL NEED Rangers" stuff is utter pish.

Aye the quality and finance might go out the game. It willnae die just because the Huns are ****ed though <ok>
 
I can see clubs getting into financial trouble is Rangers get booted out the SPL.

But at the end of the day Sky don't run Scottish Football, we've got by without Sky before and we'll manage again.

All this "The SPL NEED Rangers" stuff is utter pish.

Aye the quality and finance might go out the game. It willnae die just because the Huns are ****ed though <ok>

Please don't tell me you used the word quality when describing the SPL <laugh> <laugh> Ross Tokely has played in the SPL for about 8 seasons or something. He's just the tip of the iceberg.
 
Please don't tell me you used the word quality when describing the SPL Ross Tokely has played in the SPL for about 8 seasons or something. He's just the tip of the iceberg.

<laugh>

I can't argue with that, but the SPL has been ****e for years, Sky deal or no Sky deal, the SPL will still be ****e (Probable unwatchable)

No-one knows what will happen if Rangers left the league. It could collapse or it could thrive, we're in uncharted territory.
 
According to sauces all each team in the SPL would need to cover financial losses due to the loss of Rangers is 300 extra fans per home game
 
If sky rip up the contract then an alternative would be found. Celtic tv is set up to broadcast each Celtic game. There wouldn't be as many subscribers as with rangers there , but celtic tv could bring more money than the sky deal. The spl get more, the clubs get more and Celtic could make a bit too. Not billions, but more. With no rangers celtic could market this to the spl as spl tv, as considered before
 
If sky rip up the contract then an alternative would be found. Celtic tv is set up to broadcast each Celtic game. There wouldn't be as many subscribers as with rangers there , but celtic tv could bring more money than the sky deal. The spl get more, the clubs get more and Celtic could make a bit too. Not billions, but more. With no rangers celtic could market this to the spl as spl tv, as considered before


But Timmy, Scottish Football can't survive without the Mighty The Glasgow Rangers.
 
Hard to know what would happen to the SPL without Rangers.

Certainly revenue would be down. Less gate money, less money from TV and the natural fall out from that is less money from sponsorship and advertising.

Only the individual clubs know to what level that will impact them. I guess we'll learn that from the vote.
 
Hard to know what would happen to the SPL without Rangers.

Certainly revenue would be down. Less gate money, less money from TV and the natural fall out from that is less money from sponsorship and advertising.

Only the individual clubs know to what level that will impact them. I guess we'll learn that from the vote.

Exactly Gambol.

We're in the unknown here but as I said yesterday; I still think you ****s will be in the SPL next season.

Money talks.
 
gambol is right

1stly, another tv deal will be struck with someone - bbc? sky but reduced terms? even without rangers there is still some money to be made

2ndly - the pitchside sponsors etc. in the spl rarely pay for national exposure - remind me of the last time vodafone were on a board at caley thistle

you can get a board behind the goal at tannadice for a little over 2 and a half thousand a year - FACT

and the sky coverage is wash anyway :)
 
If clubs go to the wall then all well and good. Scottish Football has far too many teams anyway, the fans of the deid clubs will find another team to support.