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Discussion in 'General Chat' started by Erik, Mar 31, 2011.

  1. jerseymackem

    jerseymackem Active Member

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    1. I think that bits of the bible are very closely connected with God, the official line is that they were inspired by God to write these things. I think that the 4 Gospels are true, they were written quite close to the death of Jesus and can be considered to be accurate

    2. I don't know what you mean by that

    3. I don't know, if you spend your life doing good deeds and being an overall great guy, I suppose that would be the general prerequisites for getting to Heaven, but you would feel pretty stupid if you lived as an atheist. Everyone has their beliefs, I don't want to convert anyone.

    4. A pretty popular theory is that our minds are in His image, so we get 'given' superiority. But I'm not too sure about that, it's OT.
     
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  2. RebelBhoy

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    That isn't what you said though is it

    **** question. phrase it properly and I'll entertain it.

    where did I mention a four legged insect?

    i have offered my own thoughts on this already

    I read that in a metaphorical sense

    that is your opinion. You are entitled to it.
     
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  3. MackemsRule

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    1/ Just a longer winded way of saying bullshit!

    2/ Do you believe what is written in the Bible?

    3/ The animals that are unclean to eat, were handed down by GOD this infallible being.
    The question is one I have wanted answering for years, just thought you could help me out. After all he made everything how come he can't remember how many legs insects have?

    4/ Fair do's.

    5/ Lovely word metaphorical, a handy get out for twisting statements to suit oneself.

    6/ An opinion based on historical facts.
     
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  4. MackemsRule

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    !Hello Jersey mate. <ok>

    1/ So how come the Gospels contradict each other?
    And what about those women eh! Lets keep them where they belong uneducated servants to men.

    2/ The unclean animals believers are not supposed to eat, apart from the aforementioned none existent 4 legged insect. There's that famous BIRD someone already mentioned a BAT!

    3/ Pretty sure the basis of Christianity and most other religions, if you don't believe you don't get to Heaven.

    Hitlers in I'm out. <ok>

    4/ So, you are moving the goalposts to suit your beliefs and not accepting the word handed down from God. If it is our minds, the guy has a very twisted mind.
    But no surprise there, as the people he liked were allowed to kill and sin as long as they repented, the ones he didn't like he killed anyway. WTG big guy.
     
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  5. RebelBhoy

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    Not really. Bullshit would denote that none of it is true.

    Not being evasive but this question is about a collection of works from a collection of authors over a loooooong time. Are you asking if I believe in the literal truth of biblical parables or the historical truths within it, or the divinity of Jesus. Its a pretty loaded question?


    Ok, good question. I don't know. i will research it.

    Not really. if you read it as as an explanatory story or a metaphor. Its perfectly reasonable.

    Yep. an opinion based on historical fact....and so are mine.
     
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  6. jerseymackem

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    Hi MR :)

    1. Show me an example of where one gospel contradicts another. As for women, Jesus went against the grain in accepting women as equals; the Virgin Mary is one of the most important figures in Catholicism (behind God and Jesus), and it was three women who were first told of Jesus' resurrection.

    2. That's OT, most of which is disregarded by modern Christianity, such as Creationism, to get back on topic!

    3. Yes, but the official line is that you don't get to heaven. It's impossible to know, but how can you go to a place you don't think exists? I'm not really a specialist in his area tho... :)

    4. By our minds, I meant our ability to think rationally. A famous philosopher (I don't know which one!) said that simply the ability to think about a God was evidence enough for one. And by the repenting thing, it only works if you're actually sorry you did those things, not just for the punishment but because they are bad.
     
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  7. MackemsRule

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    Evasion or answering a question with a question not bad. <ok>

    Please point me to the facts proving Jesus was the Son of God?
     
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  8. RebelBhoy

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    I was asking you what question it is you want me to answer.

    I said my opinions are based on fact. I never said my beliefs were. not bad <ok>
     
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  9. The Raging Oxter

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    How the **** is this debate still going on?!?

    I thought we'd established that there was no God.
     
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  10. Hash.

    Hash. pure daycent

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    Right, how do you do those links?
     
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  12. RebelBhoy

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  13. The Raging Oxter

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    I wasn't meaning links to wesbites that are actually in the web address rebel.

    And is j your first initial?
     
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    I knew. I was just trying to get you to click on it
     
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  16. RebelBhoy

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    secret squirrell
     
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    sword

    Stop being a cock tease!
     
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