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Discussion in 'General Chat' started by thefanwithnoname, May 18, 2012.

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What religion were you Pre-Atheism?

Poll closed May 22, 2012.
  1. Catholic

    4 vote(s)
    33.3%
  2. Protestant

    3 vote(s)
    25.0%
  3. Jewish

    2 vote(s)
    16.7%
  4. Muslim

    3 vote(s)
    25.0%
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  1. Toby

    Toby GC's Life Coach

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    Glesga, as much as I understand why you're trying, it's a massive waste of your time.

    This guy is the most deluded ****wit I've ever encountered, you'll just end up sucked into a 5+ page argument where you'll end up insulting him. <ok>
     
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  2. Ciaran

    Ciaran Going for 55

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    Fan winning again, no surprise I suppose.
     
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  3. Shameless

    Shameless Well hung member

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    No, he NEVER wins, he is a negative force in the universe, the ultimate black hole.
     
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  4. Kyle?

    Kyle? New Member

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    How is that remotely possible? I've never been religious, my parents have never been religious, how can you possibly be born as a believer, if those around you don't belive in religon? I didn't wake up one day as a 2 year old and think, "you know what, i won't believe in god".
     
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  5. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    I didnt know that about alcoholism specifically TBH

    You are of course right generally, and that is what I meant when I said

    stats from various disability organisations, although I do accept, as with a lot of scientific theories where they often are not, other factors need to be considered

    The problem arises when these 'other factors' are not considered by opposing arguments, science in particular is responsible for a lot of 'educated guesses' within its realms, but as you may have seen some have great difficulty accepting that
     
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  6. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    maybe if youu focuuse less on 'winning' and actually contributed something positive for a change you might learn something
     
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  7. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    Toby I could school you again, but I found this recently

    Most people who insult other people are insecure. They think that it will make them feel better if they put someone else down, or they insult the other person to take attention off of themselves. Sometimes people who are angry insult other people because they are not mature enough to think of a different way to handle their anger except to try to start a fight or to try to make the other person feel bad.
    Mature people can communicate with others without insulting them. Any ideas can be discussed between mature adults without fighting or insulting each other. Mature people can "agree to disagree" and give each other the right to have different opinions.
    ''



    and I thought of you

    fan
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  8. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    Its quite simple really Kyle

    just read the whole sentence, especially the beginning 'the good lord says....''
     
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  9. Kyle?

    Kyle? New Member

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    <doh> I don't remember some ethereal voice telling me to follow a religion as a baby, i was born, and raised, as an atheist.
     
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  10. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    you didnt get it did you?

    and no one is born atheist or jew or christian etc

    the parents make them such
     
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  11. Kyle?

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    I do get it, it's you who said the good lord says, not me. You implied that religion is decided by a higher power, and that we are born religious. Stop twisting the facts. I know what i said, i know what you said.
     
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  12. Kyle?

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    See, you said "All are born theist". Don't tell me i don't get it, it's you who seems confused here.
     
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  13. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    I didnt imply anything you have jumped to conclusions, how do you know it wasnt a tongue in cheek response to a person who doesnt believe? which it was

    However as a muslim the quran does tell me that and I believe it

    scientifically, a person is born without learnt behaviour but the brain has a 'god spot'
     
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  14. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    No I said
    As the good lord says you were NOt born atheist, as ALL are born theist

    The good lord says, not me
     
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  15. Kyle?

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    Ok, how does that work, i'm no nueroscientist, but surely if the brain of a baby doesn't understand the concept of behaviour, how can it possibly be aware of religion?

    Thats the thing i dislike about religion in general, it's just 1 massive contradiction, a bit like listening to a group of Spurs fans.
     
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  16. Kyle?

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    So a fictional character created by some drunk guys says something, you automatically believe it, without checking it out first? If "Allah" told you to jump off a bridge, you would do it, no questions asked?
     
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  17. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    I think the spurs fans jibe is a bit low TBH <laugh>

    However the 'god spot' argument is a scientific one and the latest study can be found in the journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. In it the scientists say that they believe that there is not just one but several areas of the brain that form the biological foundations of religious belief.
    Apparently a belief in God is deeply embedded in the human brain

    So the lord says it and science confirms it, it seems
     
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  18. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    How do you reach that conclusion?

    Intoxication of any sorts is not allowed in Islam

    and if you believe something to be true, why not trust it?
     
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  19. Kyle?

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    I've just found the article, the study was conducted in the US, a god fearing country, thats hardly going to be a fair reflection, US scientists have a reputation for telling the public what they want to hear, not the truth. I fear they have got to you to.
     
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  20. Kyle?

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    I reach that conclusion, as there is no scientific proof in the existence of God, be it your god, the christian god, or any alternatives.
     
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