**** the SFA
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What else has he done that’s so bad? Are you serious?
Anyhoo, I can see I’m wasting my time even responding to you as your first instinct seems to be to go on the attack even if someone (in this case me) makes a wholly reasonable suggestion.
Your defence mechanism seems to be “Don’t let anyone talk about anyone involved with Rangers, even if it is the man who has shafted Rangers, David Murray”.
My opinion of the takeover is based on MY opinion, and speculation is clearly defined in the dictionary if you would bother to look.
Speculate
1. To meditate on a subject; reflect.
2. To engage in a course of reasoning often based on inconclusive evidence
Speculation is seldom (if ever) based on “fact”, and as I have already explained I never claimed my opinion was based upon facts anyway, the suggestion I made regarding Llloyds was based upon the evidence currently available.
As for MY negativity towards Murray, is your belief based upon FACT or are you now indulging in the “speculation “that you readily criticise others for?
What a pointless post. What have you achieved there except back up what I already said. No facts or examples of said naughtyness...
I know what speculation means flower, you don't need to get smart about it, I think you'll find I said you were speculating on speculation hence growing arms and legs to a story which wasn't based on any known facts and then you try to explain to me that speculation seldom involves facts?!?!? wtf!
Ps when did I attack you?
Why don't you use this positively, next year, apply to join the Conference League in England, field a team of good 17 year olds and who ever you have left that wants to play for you, then try to work your way up to the EPL, thats what you've always wanted and it would really put one over on Celtic.
I reckon in maybe 5 years you could change the face of Scottish football.
I reckon in maybe 5 years you could change the face of Scottish football.
Iâm not really of a mind to explain simple concepts to you, especially when you say things like âSpeculating on speculationâ, and that you are all for âOpinions as long as they are based on factsâ. You are in actual fact guilty of speculating on where my opinions were formed and on what basis, that is your opinion and it is not based on any facts unless you are laying claim to having Psychic abilities?
You posts are a torrent of contradictions, as for attacking me? You have said Iâm talking **** (again that is an opinion not based upon any fact that Iâm aware of unless you have proof which directly disproves what I have suggested) and that Iâm a âhalf baked moronâ.
If you honestly donât know what Murray has done wrong then Iâm certainly not going to waste my time explaining it to you.
You might well be about to get a Medro-esque "so, you can't prove that Murray did anything wrong, then?"
It was specsavers fault
I think Murray is held up as a hero by Rangers fans because he brought some good times to the club. However a lot of his business interests are failing miserably and must be hurting his personal wealth. Only this week he has closed the doors on another three branches of his Steel Stockholding organisation. He is first and foremost a businessman and I find it very hard to believe that he had the "best interests" of your club foremost in his mind when he sold it to Craig Whyte. Moreover he had the best interests of David Murray in mind.
As I stated in my earlier post, there is going to be a very painful process ahead but when you come through it you will be a much stronger business and club. I hope you get the right owners and they run it sensibly on your behalf.
As I stated in my earlier post, there is going to be a very painful process ahead but when you come through it you will be a much stronger business and club. I hope you get the right owners and they run it sensibly on your behalf.
ok, i was gonna let this one fly because you're going round in circles and i couldn't be bothered replying to your individual points using my phone, its too tedious. But i've nipped on the wee tablet to send a work email so here we go...
PS. you are my second favourite tim behind simon bhoy. i just wish you could take a few steps towards his style and away from harryhoods...
PS. you are my second favourite tim behind simon bhoy. i just wish you could take a few steps towards his style and away from harryhoods...
One quick question and then I'm done (I don't think I've asked any).
Do you believe that Rangers were not on the verge of administration before Whyte took over?
Oh dear.
You've discovered a misunderstanding where there is none.
Your yes means "I, Chapper, do not believe that Rangers were on the verge of administration until Craig Whyte took over."
Out of the 70 million potential tax bill (among other things), it was the 9 million that made the difference?
Similarly, the £138m (or whatever it is) debt isn't what has killed Rangers - according to the club it's a £160k fine that's done it.
Enjoy yourselves
Concepts like “Speculating on speculation” which is what you accused me of?
YOU are speculating or “Guessing” to be more accurate because you have nothing upon which to base your speculation.
Where did I say that these “Pundits” were the people who provided me with the basis of my speculation (or theory)? That’s right, I didn’t
If you had bothered to read what I actually said then you would have long since stopped digging that hole you are in.
So let me spell it out for you.
“NO PUNDITS” have suggested that Lloyds were applying pressure because of the upcoming EBT cases. That's right, no one. It is a theory of mine based upon the evidence that is already in the public domain.
I have neither read nor heard anyone else suggest this may have been reason, so if you are so confident that I am speculating based upon speculation??? Feel free to tell me who’s speculation I am speculating on.
In other words, whose Ideas/conspiracies have I stolen?
Is that all Murray did?
Sold to the wrong person?
FFS chaps
you also asked that question by the way...
Oh dear.
You've discovered a misunderstanding where there is none. oooorrrrrr you don't understand your own question?...
Your yes means "I, Chapper, do not believe that Rangers were on the verge of administration until Craig Whyte took over." my yes means only yes. you've confused yourself within your own question, don't try to turn it on me
Out of the 70 million potential tax bill (among other things), it was the 9 million that made the difference?
duh. you don't go into admin for "potentials"
Similarly, the £138m (or whatever it is) debt isn't what has killed Rangers - according to the club it's a £160k fine that's done it.
what £138m pound debt? take out the tax "potential" and ticketus fiasco (which whyte should pay, who the f**k lends money to someone against an assest they don't yet own) and you'll find the net debt is similar to that of celtic FACT.
Enjoy yourselves