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poolie_mackem

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Own up lads, did people want this lad to do well because fans love players with ther fancy names, long hair and from far away destinations.

Looks like its the end of the road for Angeleri and wouldn't be suprised if he doesn't report back on time makes no difference realy he has only played 70mins or so of first team football, maybe the lad has a point none of us know what is happening at the training ground between him and Bruce but I can sympathise with him, he has travelled halfway around the world to play 70mins of first team football since the summer.

Good luck to the lad hope he goes to a club wer he will be a regular and we get our money back
 
After what I'd heard of him I thought SB had found another gem of a player however he has turned out to be a joke. I want all our players to do well no matter where they come from just a shame he hasn't done it and like you Poolie wish him luck, it's looking like Riveros is going the same way unfortunately thought he was THE player to bring us forward that extra step this season.
 
Poolie if I called myself El Stevio and claimed to be popular amongst those thongs in Madrid, somewhere you would write an article about me..

The fact the lad has flopped is through idiots trying to come across as more intelligent as what they are. I'm talking Steve Bruce here BTW. I wrote a similar article for the Scotsman in 1989 when Souness was manager of Rangers and signing similar stiffs.

One thing about the English you can guarantee, stupidity, greed and denial..
 
"Own up lads, did people want this lad to do well because fans love players with ther fancy names, long hair and from far away destinations?"

No. I couldn't give a toss for those things. I wanted Angeleri to succeed (and still do, though, after this outburst, I don't think he will) for entirely different reasons. Every four years, I switch on the t.v. and watch eleven men in white shirts (in the habitual absence of Scotland's blue) wrestle, kick, and generally cheat their way to a nil-nil draw with Somalia, Campuchia or someone. I doubt very much if I've seen an ounce of imaginative skill in that team since 1996, but, for some reason, I guess I keep on watching. And then, on Tuesday or Wednesday, I see a team in blue-and-white stripes, invariably fielding four or five twenty year-olds that I've never heard of, play fast, exciting, attacking football with skill, flair, ball-control (ball control -can you imagine that!) and panache. These guys have all the style in the world. And I disappear into a reverie, dreaming of soccer that England (much less Scotland) has never even dreamt about. I LOVE the way Argentina play their football.

And then my own team, Sunderland, sign an Argentine international - and all the dreams are re-ignited. I so very much long for Sunderland to play like that. O.k., we may take the occasional 4-0 trouncing (as Argentina did this year) because we had too many attack-minded players at the back. But, over a whole season, I'd take three or four trouncings to watch football like that every week. Is there anyone who wouldn't?

So, we get the lad, give him 70 minutes of bit-parts (never a complete game, much less a run in the team) and then kick him out. People write things like "the lad has flopped" on these boards, on what grounds I can't quite see. And sadly, very sadly, the dream gradually fades away.

A man travels half way round the world, with international credentials, and we give him seventy minutes of bit-parts before writing him off. Jesus Christ, the English can get a tad self-righteous at times, don't you think? And, well naturally, the Scots, who haven't been to a World Cup themselves in damn near thirty years, snatch eagerly and o-o-oh so gleefully at the opportunity to mock us.

It saddens me a bit. How about you?
 
I said on an earlier thread, I dont blame Angeleri or Riveros, I blame the people who brought them here then did not give them a chance.
 
for what ever reason it has not worked out........... he moves on.............so do we.........end of storey.........more interested in how we can get it right going forward
 
In my opinion these palyers must not have shown they were capable of playing in the premier league during training sessions. A player who is not in the team must show in training why they should be playing. I guess Angeleri and to a lesser extent Riveros did not do this.

At the start of the season I wrote on 606 that I had spoken to Nick Barnes of BBC Newcastle and he said Angeleris was unsettled and wanted to be away
 
An added problem is that they will talk to their old team mates and the word goes out to be careful about signing for Sunderland. We can do without that and maybe we need to spend more time vetting players not just on their footballing ability but their temprement as well. I'm sure when they sign we all wish them well and its unfortunate when they don't make it. Perhaps too we need to look at the Club and ask questions relating to if they are doing enough to help people settle in a strange land far from home. I know they get paid lots of money but they may be in need of support and encouragement to make a life here. Does anybody know what help the Club does give?
 
cyprussydsafc said:
I said on an earlier thread, I dont blame Angeleri or Riveros, I blame the people who brought them here then did not give them a chance.
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Spot on, syd. We were all unhappy that Kevin Phillips was never given 90 minutes for England. All he got was 35 minute scraps here and there. That's no way to settle a new player in, and I for one gave Eriksson stick for it. And yet, here we are, doing the same thing ourselves! With PDS, it was different - he didn't like the hustle and bustle of the EPL and wanted to go. That's fair enough. But I don't think we've done right by Riveros and Angeleri, any more than England did right by Phillips.
 
cyprussydsafc said:
I said on an earlier thread, I dont blame Angeleri or Riveros, I blame the people who brought them here then did not give them a chance.
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the south American scouts need there arse`s kicking .
Its down to the manager to give them a chance . Bruce should of done more home work before allowing them to come over .
 
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