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Who cares about banter for a sec, seriously what the hell has black cats got to do with anything?
The worst thing I have seen is Leeds Utd dont actually have a set in stone mascot, so they vote for one every season (or they at least used to). One season a few years back they had..............................a snowleopard!! A f*cking snowleopard?! Think they must have ran out of 'white' animals by now...
Actually thinking of this, why dont Mackems vote for a black animal every season?.........just dont sign Suarez anytime soon...
I suggest you research the history of SAFC regarding this, and you may just find that it is very much relevent..
Any actual evidence of this, like pictures, news clippings? Not that I'm really bothered, but you know. As we are on the subject.
Well as you brought it up I think you're probably still the person who's most bothered... I say again 'Google is your friend'
I like the typical defensive attitude their of any football fan. I dont sit up at night thinking about it, I (as well as the rest of the country) find it strange as to how a team can suddenly be called something, that to common knowledge had no ties with it whatsoever.
Like it says, Sunlund haven't had a mascot for years and years so why suddenly the association? Surely you would have kept this Black Cat idea since it first happened?
Strange.
Anyway, good luck to you. It beats The Mackems anyhow...
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Are you actually reading this thread or are you genuinely thick as pig ****?
Once again I will tell you that the black cat has been associated with SAFC for many, many years...It has also been associated with the SAFC Supporters Association since it came into existence...
Now then...Tell me all about how the seahorse was seen running about in Skunksville?
No, it was the little comment of 'well you brought it up'.
Who cares. See you on Sunday.
Never mind the seahorse...Ladies and gentleman may I now present Mr Serihorse...
I was about to dignify you with a response, but then I remembered, all you ever say back is some form of "You've bitten" to save face.
HMS Newcastleâs
Honours Board
1655-1953
PORTO FARINA 1655
4 April
Porto Farina, on the Tunisian coast of Africa, was the scene of this battle in 1655. An English fleet of twenty-four ships under the command of General-at-Sea Robert Blake wearing his flag in the George was dispatched to the Mediterranean to conduct reprisals against Barbary pirates for their attacks on English shipping.
The Bey of Tunis rejected Blake's demands for redress. Blake replied by bombarding the Bey's forts before locating nine Algerian ships in nearby Porto Farina. He led a force of fifteen ships, forced the entrance to the harbour, silenced more batteries and destroyed all nine Algerian ships before withdrawing.
Battle Honours:
Amity Andrew Bridgewater Foresight George
Kent Merlin Mermaid Newcastle Pearl
Success Unicorn Worcester
SANTA CRUZ 1657
20 April
War With Spain 1655-60
Santa Cruz de Tenerife in the Canary Islands was Robert Blake's swan song. He was the General-at-Sea commanding a powerful squadron of ships which was blockading the port of Cadiz when he received intelligence of the Spanish treasure fleet from the West Indies having arrived at Santa Cruz. His ships weighed anchor and twenty-three men-of-war set sail for the Canaries. On 20 April the fleet arrived off Santa Cruz, a strongly fortified harbour where sixteen galleons carrying Spanish treasure could be counted
Blake forced an entry into the harbour, under the well-positioned guns of the fortress and the galleons, in a finely executed operation. He then destroyed the Spanish fleet in a fierce battle, before extricating his own fleet in a fine display of seamanship. Sixty men had been killed, and the 64-gun Speaker was severely damaged and had to be towed home. Five Spanish ships had been taken and eleven more burnt or blown up. Rear-Admiral Richard Stayner who had led the offensive into the harbour received a knighthood.
Battle Honours:
Bridgewater Bristol Centurion Colchester
Convert Fairfax Foresight George
Hampshire Jersey Langport Lyme
Maidstone Nantwich Newbury Newcastle
Plymouth Speaker Swiftsure Unicorn.
Winsby Worcester
LOWESTOFT 1665
3 June
Second Dutch War 1665-67
Lowestoft was one of the classic battles of sail, fought on an enormous scale between an English fleet of 109 ships commanded by James, Duke of York (the King's brother) and 103 ships of a Dutch fleet commanded by Admiral Opdam (or Obdam) Jacob vail Wassenaer, off the Suffolk coast about 40 miles south-east of Lowestoft.
The Dutch fleet was marauding near the Dogger Bank at the end of May, capturing a convoy of twenty English merchant ships, when James, Duke of York received intelligence of the enemy activity. James, in his flagship the Royal Charles (80), led the English fleet in weighing anchor from the Gunfleet and proceeding to Southwold Bay. James had with him, commanding two of the enormous squadrons, the Earl of Sandwich (Montagu) and Prince Rupert, two of the famous generals-at-sea.
Two days of manoeuvring these vast fleets preceded the battle, which was joined at 4 am on 3 June, each fleet passing the other on opposite tacks, each ship engaging as the enemy ships came into range. Soon the battle had degenerated into a melee on a grand scale.
In the centre the two flagships Royal Charles and Eendracht (76), fought a bitter battle, the latter just failing in an attempt to board James's ship
At one stage a chain shot killed many officers and men alongside James, who was spattered with their blood. A chronicler (probably James's flag captain Sir William Penn) wrote: "At 12 came A shot from Opdam yt killed ye Earl of Falmouth [Charles Berkeley] Lord Musgrave [Muskerry] and Mr Boyle [younger son of the Earl of Burlington]."
Eendracht then received a shot in her powder room and exploded with devastating force. Only five of her complement of many hundreds were rescued. With the death of Wassenaer, Vice-Admiral Jan Evertsen took command. Another demoralizing blow to the Dutch was the death of Vice-Admiral Kortenaer aboard the Groot Hollandia.
The English gradually gained the upper hand and the Dutch began to give way. Ships fouled each other, and no fewer than seven Dutch ships were lost by fire in this way.
With great skill Evertsen and Cornelis Tromp marshalled the Dutch fleet into a controlled withdrawal towards the Texel and Maas estuary ,which was reached by the late evening. They had lost thirty-two ships, only nine of which were taken as prizes; their casualties amounted to about 4,000 killed and 2,000 taken prisoner.
The English losses were amazingly light by comparison. The Charity, captured early in the battle, was the only ship lost. In terms of seamen, 283 were killed and 440 wounded.
Battle Honours:
Adventure Amity Anne Antelope
Assistance Assurance Bear Bendish
Blackamore Merchant Bonaventure Breda
Briar Bristol CastleFrigate Colchester
Constant Katherin Convertine Diamond
Dolphin Dover Dragon Drake
Dreadnought Dunkirk Eagle Fame
Forester Fountain Garland George
Gloucester GoldenLion Guernsey Guinea
Hambro'Merchant Hampshire HappyReturn
Henrietta Henry Horseman Hound
Jersey John and Abigail John and Katherine
John and Thomas Katherine Kent King
King Ferdinando Leopard Lion London
Loyal George Loyal Merchant Maderas Marmaduke
Martin Mary Maryland Merchant
Mary Rose Milford Monck Montagu
Newcastle Nightingale (?) Old James Oxford
Pembroke Plymouth Portland Portsmouth
Providence Princess Prudent Mary Rainbow
Reserve Resolution Return Revenge
Royal Charles Royal Exchange Royal James Royal Katherine
Royal Prince St Andrew St George Sapphire
Satisfaction Society Success Swallow
Swiftsure Tiger Triumph Uniform
3 June
Second Dutch War 1665-67
Lowestoft was one of the classic battles of sail, fought on an enormous scale between an English fleet of 109 ships commanded by James, Duke of York (the King's brother) and 103 ships of a Dutch fleet commanded by Admiral Opdam (or Obdam) Jacob vail Wassenaer, off the Suffolk coast about 40 miles south-east of Lowestoft.
The Dutch fleet was marauding near the Dogger Bank at the end of May, capturing a convoy of twenty English merchant ships, when James, Duke of York received intelligence of the enemy activity. James, in his flagship the Royal Charles (80), led the English fleet in weighing anchor from the Gunfleet and proceeding to Southwold Bay. James had with him, commanding two of the enormous squadrons, the Earl of Sandwich (Montagu) and Prince Rupert, two of the famous generals-at-sea.
Two days of manoeuvring these vast fleets preceded the battle, which was joined at 4 am on 3 June, each fleet passing the other on opposite tacks, each ship engaging as the enemy ships came into range. Soon the battle had degenerated into a melee on a grand scale.
In the centre the two flagships Royal Charles and Eendracht (76), fought a bitter battle, the latter just failing in an attempt to board James's ship
At one stage a chain shot killed many officers and men alongside James, who was spattered with their blood. A chronicler (probably James's flag captain Sir William Penn) wrote: "At 12 came A shot from Opdam yt killed ye Earl of Falmouth [Charles Berkeley] Lord Musgrave [Muskerry] and Mr Boyle [younger son of the Earl of Burlington]."
Eendracht then received a shot in her powder room and exploded with devastating force. Only five of her complement of many hundreds were rescued. With the death of Wassenaer, Vice-Admiral Jan Evertsen took command. Another demoralizing blow to the Dutch was the death of Vice-Admiral Kortenaer aboard the Groot Hollandia.
The English gradually gained the upper hand and the Dutch began to give way. Ships fouled each other, and no fewer than seven Dutch ships were lost by fire in this way.
With great skill Evertsen and Cornelis Tromp marshalled the Dutch fleet into a controlled withdrawal towards the Texel and Maas estuary ,which was reached by the late evening. They had lost thirty-two ships, only nine of which were taken as prizes; their casualties amounted to about 4,000 killed and 2,000 taken prisoner.
The English losses were amazingly light by comparison. The Charity, captured early in the battle, was the only ship lost. In terms of seamen, 283 were killed and 440 wounded.
Battle Honours:
Adventure Amity Anne Antelope
Assistance Assurance Bear Bendish
Blackamore Merchant Bonaventure Breda
Briar Bristol CastleFrigate Colchester
Constant Katherin Convertine Diamond
Dolphin Dover Dragon Drake
Dreadnought Dunkirk Eagle Fame
Forester Fountain Garland George
Gloucester GoldenLion Guernsey Guinea
Hambro'Merchant Hampshire HappyReturn
Henrietta Henry Horseman Hound
Jersey John and Abigail John and Katherine
John and Thomas Katherine Kent King
King Ferdinando Leopard Lion London
Loyal George Loyal Merchant Maderas Marmaduke
Martin Mary Maryland Merchant
Mary Rose Milford Monck Montagu
Newcastle Nightingale (?) Old James Oxford
Pembroke Plymouth Portland Portsmouth
Providence Princess Prudent Mary Rainbow
Reserve Resolution Return Revenge
Royal Charles Royal Exchange Royal James Royal Katherine
Royal Prince St Andrew St George Sapphire
Satisfaction Society Success Swallow
Swiftsure Tiger Triumph Uniform
ORFORDNESS 1666 (North Foreland)
25-26 July
Second Dutch War 1665-67
This battle was fought between an English fleet of eighty-nine ships and seventeen fireships jointly commanded by Prince Rupert and the Duke of Albemarle, and a smaller Dutch fleet of eighty-five ships, twenty fireships and ten smaller vessels, all under the command of Admiral De Ruyter -the Dutch Nelson. The result was a brilliant victory for the English, particularly important because it came so soon after the defeat in the Four Days' Battle.
The long-drawn-out battle began at about lOam on St James's Day, 26 July, in the North Sea about 40 miles south-east of Orfordness in Suffolk. After two hours' battling Admiral Cornelis Tromp's rear squadron sailed out of line, broke through the English line and became locked in combat with the English Blue Squadron, the rear squadron, under Admiral Sir Jeremy Smythe in Resolution(74).
Smythe gained the upper hand and this battle-within-a-battle became a pursuit of De Ruyter, progressing westward in a confused melee, while the main battle between the opposing vans and centres headed nearly due east. The Dutch van was in full flight by 3 pm and an hour later the center gave way too, three flag officers, including Jan Evertsen, being killed. But by then the English were too exhausted to take advantage.
Although retreating, De Ruyter handled the situation in a disciplined and masterly fashion, even after his own flagship had been severely damaged.
Sporadic skirmishing occurred throughout the night and action flared up briskly in the early daylight hours, but the Dutch continued their retreat to the shoals of their coastline. The battle and pursuit were over.
The Dutch losses were considerable: twenty ships were lost, with 4,000 men killed or drowned and 3,000 wounded. The only English ship lost was Smythe's Resolution, and the casualties in men killed and wounded were considerably lighter than the enemy's.
Battle Honours:
Abigail Adventure Advice Aleppine Amity
Anne Antelope Assistance Assurance *Baltimore
Blessing Bonaventure Breda Briar Bristol
Cambridge *Castle Centurion Charles
Charles Merchant Coronation Crown Defiance
Delph Diamond Dover Dragon Dreadnought
Dunkirk Eagle *East IndiaLondon
*East India Merchant Elizabeth Expedition Fairfax
Fanfan Foresight Fortune Fox *George
Gloucester Golden Phoenix Great Gift Greenwich
Guilder de Ruyter Guinea Hampshire
Happy Return Helverson Henrietta Henry
House of Sweeds Jersey *John and Thomas
*Katherine Kent Land of Promise Leopard
Lion Lizard *London Merchant
Loyal London *Loyal Merchant Marmaduke Mary
Mary Rose Mathius Monck Montagu Newcastle
Old James Paul Plymouth Portland Portsmouth
Princess Providence Rainbow Resolution Revenge
Richard Richard and Martha Royal Charles Royal James
Royal Katherine Royal Oak (Royal) Sovereign
Ruby Rupert St Andrew St George St Jacob
Samuel SanctaMaria Slothany Swallow Tiger
Triumph Turkey *Turkey Merchant Unicorn
Unity Vanguard Victory Virgin Warspite
Welcome Yarmouth York Zealand
25-26 July
Second Dutch War 1665-67
This battle was fought between an English fleet of eighty-nine ships and seventeen fireships jointly commanded by Prince Rupert and the Duke of Albemarle, and a smaller Dutch fleet of eighty-five ships, twenty fireships and ten smaller vessels, all under the command of Admiral De Ruyter -the Dutch Nelson. The result was a brilliant victory for the English, particularly important because it came so soon after the defeat in the Four Days' Battle.
The long-drawn-out battle began at about lOam on St James's Day, 26 July, in the North Sea about 40 miles south-east of Orfordness in Suffolk. After two hours' battling Admiral Cornelis Tromp's rear squadron sailed out of line, broke through the English line and became locked in combat with the English Blue Squadron, the rear squadron, under Admiral Sir Jeremy Smythe in Resolution(74).
Smythe gained the upper hand and this battle-within-a-battle became a pursuit of De Ruyter, progressing westward in a confused melee, while the main battle between the opposing vans and centres headed nearly due east. The Dutch van was in full flight by 3 pm and an hour later the center gave way too, three flag officers, including Jan Evertsen, being killed. But by then the English were too exhausted to take advantage.
Although retreating, De Ruyter handled the situation in a disciplined and masterly fashion, even after his own flagship had been severely damaged.
Sporadic skirmishing occurred throughout the night and action flared up briskly in the early daylight hours, but the Dutch continued their retreat to the shoals of their coastline. The battle and pursuit were over.
The Dutch losses were considerable: twenty ships were lost, with 4,000 men killed or drowned and 3,000 wounded. The only English ship lost was Smythe's Resolution, and the casualties in men killed and wounded were considerably lighter than the enemy's.
Battle Honours:
Abigail Adventure Advice Aleppine Amity
Anne Antelope Assistance Assurance *Baltimore
Blessing Bonaventure Breda Briar Bristol
Cambridge *Castle Centurion Charles
Charles Merchant Coronation Crown Defiance
Delph Diamond Dover Dragon Dreadnought
Dunkirk Eagle *East IndiaLondon
*East India Merchant Elizabeth Expedition Fairfax
Fanfan Foresight Fortune Fox *George
Gloucester Golden Phoenix Great Gift Greenwich
Guilder de Ruyter Guinea Hampshire
Happy Return Helverson Henrietta Henry
House of Sweeds Jersey *John and Thomas
*Katherine Kent Land of Promise Leopard
Lion Lizard *London Merchant
Loyal London *Loyal Merchant Marmaduke Mary
Mary Rose Mathius Monck Montagu Newcastle
Old James Paul Plymouth Portland Portsmouth
Princess Providence Rainbow Resolution Revenge
Richard Richard and Martha Royal Charles Royal James
Royal Katherine Royal Oak (Royal) Sovereign
Ruby Rupert St Andrew St George St Jacob
Samuel SanctaMaria Slothany Swallow Tiger
Triumph Turkey *Turkey Merchant Unicorn
Unity Vanguard Victory Virgin Warspite
Welcome Yarmouth York Zealand