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Hull humbled
08/03/2010
Phil Brown was left with a look of bemusement plastered across his face as his Hull side put in the sort of second-half performance which if repeated too regularly would certainly see his side relegated. The bookmakers have reacted accordingly to the 5-1 demolition job by shortening The Tigers in the Premier League Relegation Betting Odds 2009-2010 where they are now odds on to finish in the bottom three.
The day that football died? Do me a favour, we were pasted week in, week out for the entire season(along with the second half of the previous season).
He was good, then he was ****, we moved on.
He'll be managing in League One next season.
08/03/2010
Phil Brown was left with a look of bemusement plastered across his face as his Hull side put in the sort of second-half performance which if repeated too regularly would certainly see his side relegated. The bookmakers have reacted accordingly to the 5-1 demolition job by shortening The Tigers in the Premier League Relegation Betting Odds 2009-2010 where they are now odds on to finish in the bottom three.
The day that football died? Do me a favour, we were pasted week in, week out for the entire season(along with the second half of the previous season).
He was good, then he was ****, we moved on.
He'll be managing in League One next season.
Phil going you mean............ something had to be done ............ only history will tell if it was the right decision. Yup one year is history ... right decision.
Ignore him OLM he's a f*ckwit. Suggest he join in the debate on The CI site - will get his head and other parts of his anatomy chewed off.
That thread's been going too long, it never moves on, everyone has their opinion and is going to stick to it, so the same points just get repeated ad infinitum.
I think he was a victim of his own success, nobody expected us to stay up one season in the Premiership, he was sacked because somebody thought he couldn't manage two.
Time will tell if the right decision was made, a year on and we're looking at a second season in the Championship. I'd say the right decision wasn't made at all, but of course that depends on whether you thought we could've stayed up in the Prem, I believe we could have and the performance against Arsenal showed that.
Time will tell if the right decision was made, a year on and we're looking at a second season in the Championship. I'd say the right decision wasn't made at all, but of course that depends on whether you thought we could've stayed up in the Prem, I believe we could have and the performance against Arsenal showed that.
If you think discussing a key event in the club's history is a trolling attempt then ****ing ignore it you cretin.
Some of your points i agree with - yes, Brown was a victim of his own success and yes, if we'd repeated the Arsenal performance (minus the result) we COULD have had a shout of staying up. I'd rather have had Brown than Dowie going into the final weeks, and on the back of the Arsenal game he shouldn't have been sacked. However, taking things into context, the Arsenal game was only one of the few highlights in a dire season, Brown was now on borrowed time and most managers ould have gone on the back of similar form.
I disagree however with your last point. Time has told, we are now on the up with a manager and backroom team who are building a young, exciting team for the future and have sound financial backing and in with a slight chance of the play offs. We have teh resources to make a solid promotion push next season should we remain in the Championship. So, in hindsight sacking Brown was the right option, albeit with strange timing. Had Brown still been here, i feel we'd have been stuck with the players we came down with due to his stubborness and maybe not sitting 8th in the league. NP has been a breath of fresh air or the club and things have changed for the good, you have to be deluded to think the right decision wasn't made in sacking brown.
I don't know anyone who thinks Brownies departure was well timed, or anyone who wanted to see Dowie take his place, so I think we all agree on that particular issue.
But the reality remains, that overall Brownies signings were poor, his man management skills were poor, his results were poor and though the timing was bad and I think he'd have done a better job than Dowie, I still think we'd have gone down and I don't think that results were the main reason he went.
But the reality remains, that overall Brownies signings were poor, his man management skills were poor, his results were poor and though the timing was bad and I think he'd have done a better job than Dowie, I still think we'd have gone down and I don't think that results were the main reason he went.
Good points from TigerPaul1991. I think the main thing is the only option sometimes is for everyone to move on.
Phil Brown kept us in the championship, got us promoted playing exciting football, made some sharp signings and had a bang tidy plan on how to get the best out of them. Fantastic stuff, happy memories and full respect for that. Until christmas...I reckon a 3-0 home defeat by chelsea exposed our weakness and we didn't have a plan B that worked.
But that's when the good stuff stopped, we lost with bad football and poor spirit and strange interviews - best of luck to the fella but things look far steadier and forward looking under Pearson and co.
Phil Brown kept us in the championship, got us promoted playing exciting football, made some sharp signings and had a bang tidy plan on how to get the best out of them. Fantastic stuff, happy memories and full respect for that. Until christmas...I reckon a 3-0 home defeat by chelsea exposed our weakness and we didn't have a plan B that worked.
But that's when the good stuff stopped, we lost with bad football and poor spirit and strange interviews - best of luck to the fella but things look far steadier and forward looking under Pearson and co.
After the initial "Honeymoon Period" when we went up to the PL (i.e., till Jan. ,09),which was roughly when the top teams found out we were a "one trick pony", and Brown showed he had no other ideas on how to "surprise" them, we died our slow death in the PL. Brown did not keep us up in the '08/'09 season other teams results (or rather, lack of!) kept us up there( ask any NUFC whining bastard!), which, come the '09/10 season was like watching a favourite family member slowly die from cancer. Brown had come to believe the hype, that had been spun about him in the media, or, he would/should have resigned earlier than when he was pushed. If he had thought more of the Club, than his own public persona, he would have stepped aside soon after it became clear, to the fans in general, that he did not have any way of combating the other teams in the PL from ****ting on us from a great height, week in week out till the last game of the season, when The Tigers left the top fight of football in the UK, not with a roar, but, with a whimper.
The decision to appoint Dowie will always be seen to have been a mistake, but who else could/would have taken on such a task at such a late point in the season? He was the Doctor brought in to switch off the life support machines. The management did not have a clue, the players did not have the impetus, to turn things around on the pitch during matches, and the Owner/s took too long to get rid of the failing management team, to give the Club a lifeline early enough to make a difference.
At least now, with the new owners, a new, and vibrant, management team, and, some young, hungry, and, exciting players we have started moving in the right direction now. Most fans have a new optimism prior to, and, after matches ( win, lose or draw!) on where the club is going in the foreseeable future, rather than an impending doom!
I, for one, would rather have the feeling that I have now, than the dread that last season filled me with.
Thus endith this lecture, assignments to be handed in this time next week!!!
The decision to appoint Dowie will always be seen to have been a mistake, but who else could/would have taken on such a task at such a late point in the season? He was the Doctor brought in to switch off the life support machines. The management did not have a clue, the players did not have the impetus, to turn things around on the pitch during matches, and the Owner/s took too long to get rid of the failing management team, to give the Club a lifeline early enough to make a difference.
At least now, with the new owners, a new, and vibrant, management team, and, some young, hungry, and, exciting players we have started moving in the right direction now. Most fans have a new optimism prior to, and, after matches ( win, lose or draw!) on where the club is going in the foreseeable future, rather than an impending doom!
I, for one, would rather have the feeling that I have now, than the dread that last season filled me with.
Thus endith this lecture, assignments to be handed in this time next week!!!
I don't know about the signings olm. Hunt, altidore, bullard, king, geo, zayatte, pederson, okocha, campbell and deano were all decent signings. The rest were either dire or questionable. His man management skills were awful though. Having players sit on the naughty step whenever they spoke out was just comical. Tbh though, Brown should've had till the end of the season and then have got sacked.