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Article: How Times Have Changed

Discussion in 'Norwich City' started by KIO, Jan 18, 2012.

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  1. Carra_Rud

    Carra_Rud Active Member

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    It wasn't taken as a cheapshot.<ok> I just wondered who you thought he might leave for.
     
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  2. Rubik's Tube

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    He will leave eventually because he clearly has what it takes to be a top, top manager. But, there's a pretty small range of clubs big enough to lure him and small enough to appoint a manager with no major honours. We're probably talking Everton, Sunderland, Newcastle, Villa and Celtic. It could be a couple of years by the time any of those posts come up, by which time he could have established Norwich as a mid-table premier league side.

    Don't fear good ambitious managers, they'll leave a club in a better state than they joined it!
     
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  3. OLOF

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    At the moment, there are no big jobs available, but as you know things can change very quickly, Redknapp could get the England, Taggart could decide he's had enough, chelski could lose faith in AVB, and Ipswich may sack Jewel......

    sorry that was a cheap shot:angel:
     
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  4. Superman wears Grant Holt pyjamas in bed

    Superman wears Grant Holt pyjamas in bed Well-Known Member

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    to be fair, we poached him ourselves. we know it will happen one day, but i think it'll take a monumental offer for him to give up what he has got going here. when he does get that offer, we shall all applaud the job he has done and wish him well.

    but there is just something about the guy that makes you think he will get us some success first. i don't know why i think that but i do. thanks for positive posts from leeds fans too - both our clubs, and indeed saints have been through quite a lot lately and i certainly feel there has been a lot of mutual respect between all three clubs <ok>
     
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  5. OLOF

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    Cheers, all the best, enjoy while it lasts, cos times can change.
    we're gonna have to wait a little longer to move forward, at least until the leech ****s off
     
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  6. Eireleeds1

    Eireleeds1 Well-Known Member

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    He will return to Celtic one day. Only question is when
     
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  7. ncgandy

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    The sectarian nightmare that is Glasgow must be very alluring! <ok>
     
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  8. Beefforhire-NCFC

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    I think Lambert is quite happy where he is.

    When people say "It's inevitable he will leave" well, yeah, he's a very young manager.It's likely he will have another job in his career. But I don't think he'll leave any time soon. He's also stated that the scottish league is not challenging enough and he'd prefer to play in the premier league.

    So if he stays in the premier league then you've got a choice of a West brom or Wolves type club, which I think is a sideways move. Or a big club will come in for him, but are they likely to trust a young manager? say totenham if Harry leaves for England, are they likely to trust Paul Lambert with the champions league where they need to be desperately to maintain their growth? I'm pretty sure they'd go for an established manager.

    Fergie goes, are they guna go for Mourinhio or Lambert? They go for Mourinhio to protect their investment, it's all about money and the security of that money.

    Everyone is very impressed with Lambert but they arent impressed enough to hand him champions league football. Lambert has been happy to build a dynasty and as we grow as a club and hopefully stay in this league he will be granted more and more freedom to do as he will with the club. Because he is backed by everyone 100%

    Does that make any sense, thats how I see it.
     
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  9. Jerel Ifil

    Jerel Ifil Well-Known Member

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    Can't see that happening mate. Doubt he's fit enough.
     
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  10. King-Cellino-Is-God

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    Revie was made a scapegoat by the FA, who has actually ever achieved success in the England job. The FA was planning to axe him before he jumped first. Everyone had dirty players in those days, for example Chelsea had Chopper Ron Harris. We played beautiful football.

    [video=youtube;D5N0pycFtmU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5N0pycFtmU&feature=related[/video]

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  11. Beefforhire-NCFC

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    wouldn't put it past him, guys a god lol
     
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  12. Canary Rob

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    I'd add a couple of reasons for him to stay on top of this... At the moment, he's got his own choice team and pretty much his own say on anything that goes. His job has to be the most secure in the prem- even Fergie is more likely to get fired if Man U lose every match from now til the end of the season, whereas I doubt Lambert would.
    Going anywhere up from Norwich would mean moving to the second tier teams mentioned- Villa, Everton etc. or better. But they may not see him as experienced enough and his job will be much more threatened and pressured- he'd be starting from scratch with a club that had high expectations. He's unlikely to be able to bring any players across to those sorts of clubs because I really don't think many Norwich players would get in their teams.

    The same goes for the very top teams- which is ultimately where Lambert clearly has his eye. No Norwich fan is going to deny he will leave for a bigger club one day, but I don't see it being soon. He wants to cement his reputation while it's easy for him in the premier league first. Maybe have a cup run (like 'Arry), then we'll see the very big clubs come sniffing and that will be the sort of leap upwards Lambert will be interested in. When Norwich hired him, he was in the position to make big demands and promises about the sort of control he would have. I can't see him settling for anything less from any club he manages, he won't want it to feel like the big club are doing him a favour, he will want the big club to desperately want him.

    For some reason Lambert also comes across in interviews as having a genuine desire to see out Norwich's seven-year plan of becoming an established pl team- I have a feeling he wants to see out another year or two to help with the foundations. But that may be more my wishful thinking!
     
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  13. DHCanary

    DHCanary Very Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Surely with Lambert's approach to buying young, keen players he has to be a shoe-in for the Arsenal job someday?

    On the subject of change, despite the top 4 or 5 clubs being pretty consistent for the last 10 years, beyond that the change is quite remarkable. Of the teams in the Premier league in 2000-01, 10 are no longer there, and then there are teams like Swansea who have gone from league 2 to the premier league in something like 9 seasons?
     
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  14. canary-dave

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    I have to say, I have no problem with today's Leeds, I have to accept what you say about Revie because I have no knowledge one way or the other!

    As for "Chopper," he never pretended to be anything else, he was interviewed after the death of George Best, his tribute was,"He's probably the greatest player I ever kicked off the park!"
     
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  15. The-Don

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    I like Norwick but ****ing hate goal music!!!
     
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  16. canarie-chippy

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    You get used to it here.....tends to happen quite a lot !
     
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  17. The-Don

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    Goal Music is for **** clubs and **** fans like Barnsley or Peterborough but Norwich have good fans and should be able to create their own atmosphere,

    Next youll be telling me you have a drummer!!!
     
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  18. ThaiCanary

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    Thankfully we do not, not sure if we ever had a band of any description inn the past either.

    Why we have goal music is beyond me but tbh it doesn't bother me one way or another. I can understand away fans not liking it for the obvious reason.
     
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  19. Superman wears Grant Holt pyjamas in bed

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    as much as i'm not a fan of our goal music, it is a miss-conception that it is there because we are unable to create our own atmosphere. it is there to compliment it. it was introduced years and years ago, maybe late 90s, when our crowds were dwindling and the club acted by selling very cheap tickets to young fans. the goal music was brought in to make it more family orientated with so many youngsters at the ground, more mascots were created and other gimmicks such as inviting fans to begin a rendition of our song etc.

    a survey released two or three years ago of championship clubs named carrow road as the TOP ground in that league for atmosphere, so i'm pretty sure it wasn't all down to goal music! in my opinion, if they took the actual music away, we'd STILL sing and dance along to the tune because we've become so used to it!! we are not alone in having this goal music - bolton have it, middlesbrough and many others. it annoys me that people think its because we can't create our own atmosphere because it simply isn't true. what i don't like is chelsea handing out flags in some bizarre attempt to make it look like anfield!

    ps. we had a drummer in the late 90s - used to sit right near me. i nearly drummed his head against the wall <ok>
     
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  20. Liw

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    Great articel and spot on with what you said.

    But I think your a **** for writing it
     
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