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  1. Jerel Ifil

    Jerel Ifil Well-Known Member

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    It did for Wrexham when they forced their corrupt owners out. Bates isn't a saint who's just been a bit **** at running Leeds. Look at his business past; I'm not exaggerating when I say he's ruined/worsened thousands of people's lives in Ireland and the Caribbean. Laughed at the death of Matthew Harding who'd propped his Chelsea up for years. He's a horrible, horrible man. Deserves every bit of abuse he gets.
     
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  2. Superman wears Grant Holt pyjamas in bed

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    ironically, we've got a hotel within our stadium and it makes quite a lot of money for the club! i guess that won't make you feel any better...
     
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  3. Jerel Ifil

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    How much does it make? And also, Carrow Road's in a nice area of Norwich not far from the centre. Beeston is one of Leeds' most notorious ****holes and it's half an hour's walk from the city centre. Like I say, if its twin project at Chelsea can't spin the dosh, it most assuredly can't at Leeds.
     
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    I think when we got Vaughan in, Lambert knew he was taking a risk, a calculated risk, but still a risk. I don't believe Howson is a risk at all, because as Supers has said, he has played lots of games for someone so young.
     
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    As I said that's just one possibility. Hoolahan hasn't shown enough this season, I think, to be in the team all the time. Although he has been playing well recently.
     
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  6. ncfcwonky

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    When you say that there is a bit of justification for it but there are much better, more effective methods.
     
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  7. Superman wears Grant Holt pyjamas in bed

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    sorry, couldn't say for sure. i'm only going on what i've been told and haven't seen the figures myself. i don't think it makes a killing but certainly it is doing better than i would have predicted, although i'm not alone in thinking the money would have been better spent on accommodating some more fans rather than tourists, seeing as we sell out every week. i've been to elland road a couple of times - even seen us relegated there - so i know the area a bit. maybe he is trying to regenerate the area, a bit like what man city are doing at eastlands but on a much grander scale of course! who knows. seems pretty pointless to me as what leeds really need is a new stadium. no offence, but entering elland road is like entering a time warp. i'm not defending the man - i can't stand him - but i do think it is inevitable that bates will be cast as a bad guy by leeds fans for numerous reasons, but with all due respect, i very much doubt you would have a club to support were it not for him.
     
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  8. I_Clean_holtys_boots

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  9. Superman wears Grant Holt pyjamas in bed

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    i was one of the people on twitter to have mentioned this! i was told by someone who works in football but has no connection to our club (in fact, he's a leeds fan!) that we'd made an enquiry early this month but it was rejected and that we'd only made an actual offer this week, an offer which was laughed off supposedly. like i say, don't know if there is any truth in it as i barely know the guy who told me but he sounded pretty convincing!! <laugh>
     
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  10. Superman wears Grant Holt pyjamas in bed

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    just to add to that, i think he'd be a very shrewd signing if the price were right! however, i just can't see us stumping up enough cash for a player who may very well end up sitting on our bench
     
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    We have 4 capable strikers at the moment, we don't need another.

    With De Laet back, we need another defender, don't like these naughton rumours flying around, makes me nervous @ covering RB or LB
     
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  12. Superman wears Grant Holt pyjamas in bed

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    although i agree with that statement, if he is better than what we already have, we should definitely sign him! why would we let an opportunity like that slip through our hands? just because everyone is playing well doesn't mean they are irreplaceable. we should continue to look to improve every aspect of our team and if that means, for example, we are able to replace holt with a better player, then that is what we should do and i'm sure lambert thinks that way as well. no place for sentiment - things change. <ok>
     
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  13. Beefforhire-NCFC

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    I think we could see a flurry of activity over the coming days. DeLaet going back is possibly part of a manouver that could see a couple join soon.

    Goalie and a defensive player of some sort?

    How about oxlaide-chambelain on loan eh?
     
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  14. Goldeneye175

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    Sacrilege, Blasphemer!!!

    QUICK, BURN HIM ON THE STAKE!

    <wah>
     
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  15. Superman wears Grant Holt pyjamas in bed

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    oxlade-chamberlain isn't available for loan though beefy - he said as much the other day. i do wonder if he will try and bring in a keeper - i personally don't feel we need one but we are of course just one suspension or injury away from a keeper crisis so perhaps it would be sensible! i'd like to see another winger - matty phillips from blackpool was linked early january but that went quiet...
     
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  16. Jerel Ifil

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    What would you say would be more effective? We obviously rattled him with the protests earlier in the season, but even some of our own fans who for some reason think he's a good Chairman laughed at our efforts, as did he. Protesting is a good outlet for our anger, and might get the media to heap some pressure on him, but it's not as direct as trying to get at the root of the problem, which is the old scumbag himself.

    The differences between the two hotel schemes are quite stark. Yours cost 9m quid and was built on its own - ours will cost between 70-90m in a scheme which will also include leisure developments which won't make any money. Yours is run by InterContinental Hotels (who run Holiday Inn), and their average British hotel makes about 1.2m profit a year. Still not a great margin. We don't know who will even be interested in ours yet. Yours has 150 rooms, ours will have 350. Half of yours have pitchside views and are actually affixed to the stadium, none of ours will be. Yours is a short walk from the city centre and in a nice area, ours is a driving distance and in a red-brick dystopia. Even if the hotel does make 1.2m a year at Elland Road (and it sure as hell won't!) it will take absolutely years to recoup even a measly profit.

    I read a report that said most of Norwich's revenue which wasn't from the usual sources (TV, tickets, merchandise) actually came from Delia's catering and banqueting, so I don't think the 150-room hotel will really give you that much of a financial advantage. Like I say, Chelsea, Sheff Utd and Bolton can't do it, so I doubt Inept Leeds can either.

    He's literally just bolting a hotel, a mall and a nightclub onto the East Stand. This is how it will look as a best case scenario! Tell me this is regeneration!

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    Degeneration more like.

    I think our fans appreciate that Elland Road's an old-fashioned stadium, and we're the sort of fans that enjoy history and atmosphere rather than crusading against it like Reading, Doncaster or Leicester. Thing is, the stadium has practically unlimited potential for expansion and redevelopment - we could have a 100,000 seater Elland Road if we wanted one, as long as no-one buys up the council's land around the stadium and builds on it (and frankly, they won't because they're not as stupid as Bates in thinking property development in Beeston equals profits!) I wouldn't mind someone modernizing Elland Road and making it more presentable, just not with money that the fans generate for the manager to use. Use outside finance if you have to, but get your priorities right. Team first, stadium second. I'd also suggest we should rebuy our stadium and training ground before we make improvements to them. Or even just put the money in a pot for that purpose. Waaaaay more important than this bullshit.

    Every bad chairman and corrupt politician makes this claim: "I've saved you". Like that should engender some sort of eternal loyalty. Bates does the same. But it doesn't give him carte blanche to wreck our football club and make our lives miseries. He should have moved out long ago when it became clear that he's incompetent, self-serving and more than anything, just hates the fans of Leeds United. He said he wanted our club to die in the 80s. He's doing a bloody good job of making it happen.
     
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  17. Superman wears Grant Holt pyjamas in bed

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    <laugh> you know what i mean! if lionel messi becomes available, then holt will have his work cut out to stay in the team on a regular basis ;)
     
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    Funny coincidence that Rodriguez made his U21 England International Debut replacing none other than...................James Vaughan

    <yikes>
     
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  19. Superman wears Grant Holt pyjamas in bed

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    honestly leeds-18, you have my sympathy <ok>
     
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  20. Goldeneye175

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    Wouldn't you want to arrive, free parking, chill in the hotel, about 10 minutes to kick-off walk out the door, take you seat, watch the match, have supper/drown you sorrows at the hotel bar, and perhaps clubbing in the evening?

    :D
     
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