When Will Starmer Go?
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A vote for everyone else except Reform UK is a vote for Labour.
All the credible opponents (Restore Britain, Conservatives, Greens, Lib Dems) should have sat down together and agreed to take one for the team.
Pull out their candidates and leave the field clear for a straight Reform UK v Labour battle.
(plus a few independents like Count Binface).
If Andy Burnham had still won, then so be it.
But with 13 opposing candidates, 4 or 5 of them major Parties who are splitting the anti-Labour vote, Burnham will struggle to lose.
All the credible opponents (Restore Britain, Conservatives, Greens, Lib Dems) should have sat down together and agreed to take one for the team.
Pull out their candidates and leave the field clear for a straight Reform UK v Labour battle.
(plus a few independents like Count Binface).
If Andy Burnham had still won, then so be it.
But with 13 opposing candidates, 4 or 5 of them major Parties who are splitting the anti-Labour vote, Burnham will struggle to lose.
So we end up with an MP and then potentially a PM who is in post because the vote against him is split, not because he is the right person for the jobs. A ridiculous situation for the country to be in.
I wonder what potential Labour voters will actually be voting for in Makerfield.
Is it to have Burnham as their local MP and were they unhappy with Josh Simons ?
Do they believe Burnham will do a better job for them than Simons did ?
Is it potentially to try to get rid of Starmer in a few months time ? That would likely mean a complete change in direction and change to the cabinet and risk the electorate feeling that the new Government doesn’t have a mandate (an allegation that Labour perhaps rightly threw at Truss & Sunak).
Will Burnham even win a leadership challenge to Starmer ?
If he does, is he too far to the left to win in a GE against a resurgent Reform and Tories ?
It’s all a bloody mess.
I doubt he'll last that long. He's holed below the waterline now.
I hope that the byelection will bring out an honest debate about defense. It's an issue because of the threat Putin poses, and I hope every party leader will agree on this.
I don’t think Starmer will ever resign. He hasn’t got the decency nor any sense of doing what is best for anyone other than himself. They’ll have to force him out kicking and screaming. But is Burnham the man you want as his replacement ?
A more left-wing politician when the country and Europe and much of the world is moving to the right ?
All of our existing problems will just get worse under Burnham and if anyone thinks he will reduce the benefits bill, cut foreign aid and do something about immigration, over-population and all the associated problems that those bring, in order to fund an increase in defence spending, then they are sadly in need of medical intervention.
As Starmer has proved, you can't really tell what sort of PM anyone will make until they get the gig. I'm not a fan of Burnham and didn't want him as leader when he stood before, but if he wins Makerfield he'll almost certainly replace Starmer sooner rather than later. Dan Jarvis or Hilary Benn would be my choice, but neither will probably stand.
Mmmm, not sure about that. I think the vast majority knew that Starmer would be useless and that’s how it’s proven to be, but it seems that due to our political system, it doesn’t matter that our PM is a complete twat.
IF Burnham gets in he will be worse for the majority of people in this country, but again that doesn’t seem to matter.
It’s why the country is in the state it’s in.