Off Topic TV, Entertainment Arts & Media thread

[lardiman]

If you play silly games you win silly prizes

I agree daft people invite misfortune upon themselves. We should all think before we act.
Youngsters don't have the benefit of life experience, and so many are raised on a diet of reality TV and influencers tempting them.
Then there are some who have to put themselves in harm's way just to pay the bills.

The criminals who prey on silly, inexperienced, gullible folk should not use the poor judgment of their victims as mitigation though.
We have no sympathy for con-men who rob trusting pensioners of their life savings.
This kind of predatory 'showbiz' crime is no less serious in my opinion.

 

[Ubedizzytoo]

Are you advocating that people who make stupid choices deserve to be the victims of crime?

Did I say that ?

And if the answer to the above question is no, then why are you asking me that question ?

And who is the only person who has made a link between people who make stupid choices and them deserving to be the victims of crime ?

 

[lardiman]

You emphasised that the women in question were not forced to take part in the TV show, by ironically suggesting that they were.

The further implication being that if they volunteered to put themselves in a vulnerable position, they were responsible (at least in part) for the offences committed against them.

So in a nutshell - yes, to my mind you did appear to say that. Albeit in a roundabout way.
Which was why I asked the question. For clarification.

If you were not saying that then I misunderstood you, for which I apologise.
Though if I did misunderstand, I am at a loss to guess what point you were making.

 

[Ubedizzytoo]

You emphasised that the women in question were not forced to take part in the TV show, by ironically suggesting that they were.

The further implication being that if they volunteered to put themselves in a vulnerable position, they were responsible (at least in part) for the offences committed against them.

So in a nutshell - yes, to my mind you did appear to say that. Albeit in a roundabout way.
Which was why I asked the question. For clarification.

If you were not saying that then I misunderstood you, for which I apologise.
Though if I did misunderstand, I am at a loss to guess what point you were making.

I suggest you stop digging. Your hole is just getting deeper.

I didn’t emphasise anything about any women, ironically or otherwise. Read my words.

There is no further implication. The implication is purely a product of your own mind. Again, read my words.

I have not said they were responsible for offences committed against them. Only you have said that. Again, read my words.

There is no evidence so far of any offences. Only third or fourth hand allegations at this stage, yet you seem to have acted as jury and judge and deemed that offences have been committed against vulnerable people ? I certainly haven’t.

For you to be correct (which you aren’t) there would need to be several leaps of the imagination and several correctly guessed at assumptions, plus these third or fourth hand allegations would need to be proven in a court of law (which they haven’t been).

 

[lardiman]

I suggest you stop digging. Your hole is just getting deeper.

I didn’t emphasise anything about any women, ironically or otherwise. Read my words.

There is no further implication. The implication is purely a product of your own mind. Again, read my words.

I have not said they were responsible for offences committed against them. Only you have said that. Again, read my words.

There is no evidence so far of any offences. Only third or fourth hand allegations at this stage, yet you seem to have acted as jury and judge and deemed that offences have been committed against vulnerable people ? I certainly haven’t.

For you to be correct (which you aren’t) there would need to be several leaps of the imagination and several correctly guessed at assumptions, plus these third or fourth hand allegations would need to be proven in a court of law (which they haven’t been).

"Yes it was very wrong to force those people to take part in this program."

Nobody was forced to take part.
So I don't know what you were trying to say.

However, life's too short to get hung up on stuff like this.
Bad behaviour and nastiness surrounding a crap TV show isn't worth having a spat over.

 

[Ubedizzytoo]

"Yes it was very wrong to force those people to take part in this program."

Nobody was forced to take part.
So I don't know what you were trying to say.

However, life's too short to get hung up on stuff like this.
Bad behaviour and nastiness surrounding a crap TV show isn't worth having a spat over.

I agree, but if you make accusations that I am somehow condoning criminal offences being committed against young people then expect to receive a robust rebuttal.

 

[lardiman]

OK. In future if I don't clearly understand what you've posted I won't ask for clarification.

 

[Ponders Revisited]

I'm currently watching Legends on Netflix.

Outstanding tellybox, it must be said.

 

[lardiman]

I've been watching a favourite of mine from the 1990's - the X Files
Some were quite good in a quirky way.

I also watched the 3 season spin-off Millennium, starring Lance Henriksen.
Not seen that before.
Again, some interesting episodes.
It was curious, seeing that paranoia about the year 2000 played out on late 1990's TV.

 

[Ponders Revisited]

I've been watching a favourite of mine from the 1990's - the X Files
Some were quite good in a quirky way.

I also watched the 3 season spin-off Millennium, starring Lance Henriksen.
Not seen that before.
Again, some interesting episodes.
It was curious, seeing that paranoia about the year 2000 played out on late 1990's TV.

I only ever watched one episode of the X Files. If I remember rightly, it had a dude who could squeeze into small spaces, including a draw of a filing cabinet. I found a bit too odd for my liking.

Now Buffy was a different story.

 

[TwoWrights]

I only ever watched one episode of the X Files. If I remember rightly, it had a dude who could squeeze into small spaces, including a draw of a filing cabinet. I found a bit too odd for my liking.

Now Buffy was a different story.

I'm not keen on sci-fi, that said I enjoyed Fringe from a few years ago.


The views expressed in my posts are not necessarily mine.

 

[Ubedizzytoo]

I only ever watched one episode of the X Files. If I remember rightly, it had a dude who could squeeze into small spaces, including a draw of a filing cabinet. I found a bit too odd for my liking.

Now Buffy was a different story.

He was certainly one of the weirder villains.

I thought Doggett and Reyes were underrated in series 8 and 9.

And Scully and Reyes together in series 9 were dynamite. And it was almost like a contest to see who could look the most beautiful on screen.

 

[lardiman]

He was certainly one of the weirder villains.

I thought Doggett and Reyes were underrated in series 8 and 9.

And Scully and Reyes together in series 9 were dynamite. And it was almost like a contest to see who could look the most beautiful on screen.

One of my favourite Doggett / Reyes episodes was the one with the serial killer who could step between different dimensions (parallel worlds).
Granted Annabeth Gish was quite good looking back then.
I thought Robert Patrick was well cast too.
He built a good TV career on the back of his appearance as the liquid metal Terminator in the sequel movie (1991)

There was a TV show made somewhat in the style of the 'X-Files' called Fringe.
@TwoWrights mentioned it in his post just above
Created by JJ Abrams.

Ran for five seasons. Might give that a watch again soon. X-Files fans might find some episodes interesting.
Near the end of season 4 there was a guest star appearance by Leonard Nimoy if I remember rightly.

 

[Ubedizzytoo]

One of my favourite Doggett / Reyes episodes was the one with the serial killer who could step between different dimensions (parallel worlds).
Granted Annabeth Gish was quite good looking back then.
I thought Robert Patrick was well cast too.
He built a good TV career on the back of his appearance as the liquid metal Terminator in the sequel movie (1991)

There was a TV show made somewhat in the style of the 'X-Files' called Fringe.
@TwoWrights mentioned it in his post just above
Created by JJ Abrams.

Ran for five seasons. Might give that a watch again soon. X-Files fans might find some episodes interesting.
Near the end of season 4 there was a guest star appearance by Leonard Nimoy if I remember rightly.

There were several X Files episodes which ‘borrowed’ themes from Star Trek, The Next Generation over the years and Star Trek was also mentioned regularly in episodes of X Files.

The episode you mention above with the villain being able to move between dimensions is one of those.

One of my favourite X Files episodes was the one where Mulder is buried underground under the influence of the fungus spores and enters a weird dreamlike world while he is slowly being devoured in real life but goes through several fictitious events and sequences under the influence.

The theme is very similar to the Nagilum episode of TNG which is also one of my favourites from that series. The final scenes with Picard and Riker debating whether to disable the auto-destruct sequence on the Enterprise, not knowing if it was real or another imagination were fantastic and very humorous.

I’m also trying to re-watch all episodes of Miami Vice at the moment. Up to S3 which isn’t my favourite as Crockett has gone short-haired and all dark grey suits. I’m looking forward to the classic long blonde locks and white linen suits with pastel T shirts of the later series.

 

[lardiman]

One of my favourite 'dimension jumping' movies is Frankenstein Unbound by Roger Corman (1990).
Based on a book by Brian Aldiss, and of course Mary Shelley's original work.
Starring John Hurt & Raul Julia.

A Sci-Fi classic 'B' movie as they used to call them - as was Ridley Scott's Alien when it was first released (John Hurt connection there).
I enjoy a David Cronenberg movie on occasion - though not while I'm eating dinner.
Cronenberg appeared in some of the newer Star Trek episodes. Star Trek Discovery I think it was.

Most of the explosion of Sci-fi movies which followed Star Wars were not up to much.
One I did like though was Outland, starring Sean Connery.
Had a kind of 'Alien' atmosphere about it, though the storyline was very different.
A futuristic, yet claustrophobic, grimy and menacing setting - which 'Alien had captured perfectly.

 

[The Penguin]

Private Eye is described as a satirical magazine, but for my money it's the most reliable way of sorting out the news from the misinformation. There is no political allegiance, it exposes the lies and half truths from left, right and centre. The investigative journalism is second to none, they have led the way on several major miscarriages of justice including the Post Office scandal. The satire is funny too, especially Keir Starmer's whatsApp group.

 

[lardiman]

I really should start buying it again.
Used to be a regular reader, but way back in the 1980's. Fell out of the habit around 35 years ago.
I would not be surprised to find little may have changed - in the layout that is.

Hasn't gone 'full colour' has it?

I used to buy 2000AD as well back in the day, and of course Viz comic

 

[Ponders Revisited]

I really should start buying it again.
Used to be a regular reader, but way back in the 1980's. Fell out of the habit around 35 years ago.
I would not be surprised to find little may have changed - in the layout that is.

Hasn't gone 'full colour' has it?

I used to buy 2000AD as well back in the day, and of course Viz comic

I've been 'writing' for Viz since 2006.

All I do is scrape the very recesses of my mind and send it off. The pay is lousy, yet knowing someone out there appreciates it is remuneration enough.

I contribute to other types of magazines, including football, music, history and crime. Again, you'll never get rich doing it, but it beats hours at the forge or on the bins (both of which I've done).

 

[lardiman]

I've been 'writing' for Viz since 2006.

All I do is scrape the very recesses of my mind and send it off. The pay is lousy, yet knowing someone out there appreciates it is remuneration enough.

I contribute to other types of magazines, including football, music, history and crime. Again, you'll never get rich doing it, but it beats hours at the forge or on the bins (both of which I've done).

Some of the letters they print are hilarious. Never knew which ones the producers write themselves or how many are real ones.
I've likely read some of your contributions.

I don't tend to buy the issues as they come out anymore, but I get the Annual every Christmas.

 

[Ponders Revisited]

Some of the letters they print are hilarious. Never knew which ones the producers write themselves or how many are real ones.
I've likely read some of your contributions.

I don't tend to buy the issues as they come out anymore, but I get the Annual every Christmas.

Most of the Letterbocks, Roger's Profanisaurus entries and Top Tips are reader contributions. There are some very funny people out there.

I started off with a smaller publication, Smut, writing articles and creating characters for the strips. We knew it was coming to an end, so I wrote some content and sent it to Viz. That was two decades ago. Blimey!