Match Day Thread Play Off Final. Hull City v Boro
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It's the ****show that broke the Internet
tigermaul
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Had someone said something too nasty about Southampton? Not that that’s possible …
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had to try give my thoughts on the situation to my wife this morning, but got to be honest i think she was faking interest *....( * insert own joke about that )
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I don't understand why the blue kit was stipulated instead of the black - unless there's some other condition making it difficult to distinguish black from red. Or maybe the officials are already in black.
3.30 KO .
The inside story of ‘Spygate’ – featuring a pine tree, disguises, damning WhatsApps and a sport in shock
The Championship has been thrown into chaos by one of the most remarkable stories of the season
www.nytimes.com
From The Athletic, seems there’s more stuff than I’ve seen in UK media.
Boro will win
doesnt open for me, what new things are listed?The inside story of ‘Spygate’ – featuring a pine tree, disguises, damning WhatsApps and a sport in shock
The Championship has been thrown into chaos by one of the most remarkable stories of the season
From The Athletic, seems there’s more stuff than I’ve seen in UK media.
tigermaul
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A Sergei Jakirovic (probably a fake) has just liked my Facebook comment on the Hull City site saying the alternative kick off times are ridiculous. There's no logical reason at all why it should go back to 1630 if it's Southampton involved after all. What are they saying, that it's ok to dick around Hull City fans with the kick off time, but not Southampton fans?
tigermaul
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Just looked on Trainline. No realistic trains for Boro fans and showing bus replacement from Darlington. No trains available back after the match.
People saying police and/or Boro travel issues mean moving it an hour earlier.
Should open as it’s a free link but this is some of it
It has also emerged that:
- Incriminating WhatsApp messages to Southampton’s analysts from head coach Tonda Eckert were revealed in the hearing, with the German now potentially facing his own serious Football Association charges
- Southampton had initially planned for Salt to go back and spy on Middlesbrough for a second day
- When Southampton spied on Ipswich, the operation involved dressing in Eastleigh kit as a disguise
- Southampton’s players have been left furious and are exploring legal options, including possible class action, if the verdict is upheld
- Hull City are also deeply unhappy, as their preparations have been thrown into disarray, having spent four training sessions focusing on playing Southampton.
The Athletic has spoken to multiple sources with knowledge of the situation, all of whom asked to remain anonymous to protect their positions, to piece together the inside story of ‘Spygate’, one of football’s most incendiary stories — and one which is not over yet.
Tuesday’s hearing was conducted remotely but featured all the drama of a classic courtroom thriller.
Southampton were represented by Kate Gallafent KC, an experienced lawyer who has worked with the FA on multiple occasions; the EFL was represented by Brendan Kelly KC, a criminal barrister with a formidable reputation in cross-examination.
One of the key revelations at Tuesday’s hearing was the WhatsApp messages sent by Eckert to his analysts that people with knowledge of proceedings said were particularly damaging to Southampton’s case.
Two of the club’s analysts gave evidence at the hearing in which they expressed remorse for their actions but said they were pushed into the spying trips. In his evidence, Eckert — who has spent most of his coaching career in Germany — claimed he was not aware that such behaviour was against the rules in England as it was widespread in European football.
The hearing was told that Eckert had sent people to spy on fellow Championship sides Oxford and Ipswich, but had been displeased with the quality of their findings. In the case of Ipswich, the subterfuge extended to using kit worn by Eastleigh, whose Hampshire training ground was hosting Southampton’s opponents.
Unsure why some people online are suggesting Wrexham should play Boro now with the winner facing us. Wrexham needed to do better against the rest of the top 6 over the course of the season. Their record against the rest of us was really poor and that’s why they missed out. Yeah Southampton beat them, but they were really pushed aside in that game 5-1.
The EFL clearly believe that Southampton have done this ahead of every game.
Assuming that Southampton's appeal gets rejected this afternoon, I expect Eckert to have been sacked by tonight.
It looks like the FA are going to charge him and ban him anyway.
Assuming that Southampton's appeal gets rejected this afternoon, I expect Eckert to have been sacked by tonight.
It looks like the FA are going to charge him and ban him anyway.
The article has a “Share for free” link which is what I pasted.
Boro are selling their tickets online only. No ticket office or phones.
They’re selling them from north to south one block at a time. By 6pm tomorrow, they will pretty much be on general sale for them.
They’re selling them from north to south one block at a time. By 6pm tomorrow, they will pretty much be on general sale for them.
Thanks for posting there's some very interesting stuff in there.The inside story of ‘Spygate’ – featuring a pine tree, disguises, damning WhatsApps and a sport in shock
The Championship has been thrown into chaos by one of the most remarkable stories of the season
From The Athletic, seems there’s more stuff than I’ve seen in UK media.
Im interested to know how Southampton feel they have a case against disproportionate punishment. Expulsion from the play offs for the Boro offence, and 2 point deduction for each game found guilty of spying in.
I’d say that’s about fair with the points deduction and will certainly act as a deterrent to all other EFL teams in the future. I wouldn’t be surprised if more comes out of the wash over the summer in terms of teams coming forward with their own case
I’d say that’s about fair with the points deduction and will certainly act as a deterrent to all other EFL teams in the future. I wouldn’t be surprised if more comes out of the wash over the summer in terms of teams coming forward with their own case