Match Day Thread Newcastle United v West Ham

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So how many places get Europe? Palace irrelevant now, but Villa are confirmed UCL so if they win what happens to their place? Nothing?

How far down is Europe? We'd still need results and I think Chelsea have had the shot in the arm they've been waiting for so will stay ahead of us.
 
8 so we realistically won't get european football and Tottenham will finish above us next season.
 
Good perfromabce tonight, felt very comfortable, not felt that in a few months with any game bar the Qarabag games. West Ham have some decent players but look to be (deservedly) going down, wonder if the staff were in a few ears after to see if any would come. Bowen, Summerville certainly and then Fernandez, Taty and Diouf would all be decent additions to the squad.
 
100% started the season as third choice, now hes probably first choice striker.

I'd be tempted to give him the 9 at this point. He'll be 23 next season, hardly a kid. Sell Wissa, promote Neave. Osula 1st, Neave 2nd, then Nick can step in as an option. Spend the money on really necessary upgrades, goalkeeper first, then full backs, a young 10 (get the lad Godts in) and two wingers (sell Murphy and Gordon). Replace Tonali if he goes.
 
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I'd be tempted to give him the 9 at this point. He'll be 23 next season, hardly a kid. Sell Wissa, promote Neave. Osula 1st, Neave 2nd, then Nick can step in as an option. Spend the money on really necessary upgrades, goalkeeper first, then full backs, a young 10 (get the lad Godts in) and two wingers (sell Murphy and Gordon). Replace Tonali if he goes.

Get rid of Wissa and Elanga....

Looks like Bruno doesn't get on with Willock so Willock might need to go... Handbags..... I suspect Bruno being the hero figure has inevitably made him the guy some players hate.
 
I'd be tempted to give him the 9 at this point. He'll be 23 next season, hardly a kid. Sell Wissa, promote Neave. Osula 1st, Neave 2nd, then Nick can step in as an option. Spend the money on really necessary upgrades, goalkeeper first, then full backs, a young 10 (get the lad Godts in) and two wingers (sell Murphy and Gordon). Replace Tonali if he goes.

Newcastle have finally unearthed something
 
Get rid of Wissa and Elanga....

Looks like Bruno doesn't get on with Willock so Willock might need to go... Handbags..... I suspect Bruno being the hero figure has inevitably made him the guy some players hate.

Completely agree; Willock's so inconsistent anyway and it's just time to move on. Elanga, huge error, wrong type of player. Wissa, horrible signing. I'd be happy with us selling Wissa, Elanga, Murphy, Gordon, WIllock. We need a proper reset.
 
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Tremendous ovation for Trippier, well deservered.
First one to join the rejuvenation, gave his heart and soul to the cause.
Thank you for your service, and best wishes for where life takes you.

I am a bit concerned about losing a real standards setter from the squad. Need to recruit very well this summer.
 
Wow, who would have thought it. Another change in tactics by the Coach who apparently only plays one way. Another change in tactics by the Coach who would never learn. Wow.

Fair play he has changed it but why has it taken until the last three games of the season where European football is now reliant on other results. Persisted with Woltemade playing as an 8 for weeks around Xmas when it was clear he was not best suited and would have been more beneficial to be playing up top or off the main CF. Stuck rigidly to a flat 4-3-3 for to long and playing players who weren't performing. Interesting now we've benched Gordon there seems to be more cohesion and balance in the team.
 
Fair play he has changed it but why has it taken until the last three games of the season where European football is now reliant on other results. Persisted with Woltemade playing as an 8 for weeks around Xmas when it was clear he was not best suited and would have been more beneficial to be playing up top or off the main CF. Stuck rigidly to a flat 4-3-3 for to long and playing players who weren't performing. Interesting now we've benched Gordon there seems to be more cohesion and balance in the team.
IMO EH was clearly experimenting with Nick to see where he would get the best out of him. An experiment which might succeed or might fail. An experiment which obviously had to be for a number of games rather than a one off. Playing him deeper didn’t, in my view, work.

I agree with you that I would play him just behind a quicker player. That I would guess originally was going to be Wissa with thinking MJ wannabee Will wasn’t quite up to it. Wissa’s injury and then form snookering that idea.

MJ Will has then been improving significantly in recent weeks combined and with Bruno’s return gave the chance to revisit what I believe was plan A which we did with good success yesterday.

The 4.3.3 we play has constantly been tweaked with small changes between games and during games. It hasn’t been a rigid 4.3.3 ever. For example Tino moving in and forward when at right back or BDB overlapping forward past the left hand midfielder and the left sided forward as just 2 examples. Sometimes it does help being at a match to see these things.

For me, it’s the same again next week. If MJ Will continues in this vein we may not need a new striker with Wissa with a proper pre season and no injuries as a back up in the hope he rediscovers last season’s form. But then I expect those claiming EH doesn’t trust youth, despite Miley, Tino, Hall and more recently MJ Will, will complain about not getting a big name striker.
 
IMO EH was clearly experimenting with Nick to see where he would get the best out of him. An experiment which might succeed or might fail. An experiment which obviously had to be for a number of games rather than a one off. Playing him deeper didn’t, in my view, work.

I agree with you that I would play him just behind a quicker player. That I would guess originally was going to be Wissa with thinking MJ wannabee Will wasn’t quite up to it. Wissa’s injury and then form snookering that idea.

MJ Will has then been improving significantly in recent weeks combined and with Bruno’s return gave the chance to revisit what I believe was plan A which we did with good success yesterday.

The 4.3.3 we play has constantly been tweaked with small changes between games and during games. It hasn’t been a rigid 4.3.3 ever. For example Tino moving in and forward when at right back or BDB overlapping forward past the left hand midfielder and the left sided forward as just 2 examples. Sometimes it does help being at a match to see these things.

For me, it’s the same again next week. If MJ Will continues in this vein we may not need a new striker with Wissa with a proper pre season and no injuries as a back up in the hope he rediscovers last season’s form. But then I expect those claiming EH doesn’t trust youth, despite Miley, Tino, Hall and more recently MJ Will, will complain about not getting a big name striker.

No doubt your view is better than those stuck on Sky, but we all know that whatever has been happening, tweaks or not, hasn’t worked. It needed more of a revolution than tiny evolutions and the double pivot with a 10(ish) was a good step forward as it addressed so many glaring issues, such as only playing with wingers who cut in, massive gap between midfield and forwards. Nobody is daft enough to think we could just rock up, replace Eddie and make it work!! I just think we were crying out for change, not tweaks.

Now howe has demonstrated he can actually change rather than experiment in the same (enough) 433 it offers more hope that we can evolve tactically. Those calling for him to move on just didn’t see anything but obstinance and poor performances. We also can’t just get better because we train more, we have to work better than that else we will just get back to Europe then struggle again.

For the window coming there’s unlikely to be the full change we arguably need, which is GK, two full backs, two wingers, a cam and a striker with Wissa, Elanga, Gordon, Murphy, Ramsdale and Trips all leaving