Our players would have no grounds to sue us…no way would the play offs be mentioned in their contracts.
Saints expelled from Play Offs by EFL
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Just done a solid hate read of one Boro too. I think I've got this right;
- Gibbo is going to steal our kids shoes
- Saints are the antichrist
- Getting kicked out is a certainty
- 6 points is probably too gentle
- The committee read the daily mail
- Wrexham are going to sue us
I think as well I now support Boro for the same reason idealogical students join the socialist and workers union party.
- Gibbo is going to steal our kids shoes
- Saints are the antichrist
- Getting kicked out is a certainty
- 6 points is probably too gentle
- The committee read the daily mail
- Wrexham are going to sue us
I think as well I now support Boro for the same reason idealogical students join the socialist and workers union party.
My take on Gibson having advance knowledge of what the punishment might be is that after he presented his “mass of evidence” to the EFL they took a look at it and told him that the punishment would be xyz, based on what he had presented to them.
This is possibly why he is pushing it so hard in the media in an attempt to undermine the independent investigation, so I hope the EFL has a rule about that.
This is possibly why he is pushing it so hard in the media in an attempt to undermine the independent investigation, so I hope the EFL has a rule about that.
They maybe took a look at his evidence and said “is that it”. Especially the parts apparently related to systemic spying and other clubs
But I think I said on Friday - that statement they released is not the statement of a club that thinks things are going “their way”
garysfc
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Yep Helburg took them from 2nd to 5th (from when he joined) & recent form 2x wins in 12games & the wins were Sheff W & Watford who were in free fall at time.
Roll on Tuesdays hearing. I’m hoping there’s no additional evidence of us doing this previously & the EFL are sensible regarding the penalty. Fingers x’d.
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Our spies haven't come back with any information yet, rumoured.
The whole thing is a legal mess. I read something on Friday about the behaviour of Boro concerning UEFA as they have pursued the matter in fashion that breaches their regulations. I do not know if this is credible or another load of nonsense. Assuming that it is found that the spying mission was not "official", I think it might be interesting to see whether we have a case against them. Both parties should be keeping schtum. I just feel that Boro have over-egged this to the extent that EPL are having pressure put on them to resolve a minor infringement. I keep mulling over the idea of how they would respond if it has been a Saints fan filming the training session and had emailed it to our coaching staff. In my mind, I am not seeing that an intern with a mobile is that much more serious.
This is exaclty what I think will happen. Saints are keeping their powder try. I cannot believe for one moment that this sanctioned by the club.
This might be the stupidest thing I've read throughout this whole saga, and that's saying something.
I Googled "What have Southampton FC said about Spygate?" not one response! It's clear they haven't said anything to anyone other than the Independent Enquiry, this may be why the Media are being so spiteful.
I am guessing that the reality is that this was the actions of an individual and not the club. I can see a fine and no points deduction. The final will proceed with Saints v Hull.
I still think it far more likely that others at the club knew/sanctioned it than he just decided to do it on his own.
I'd find it surprising if he didn't given his role, and arguably that would be an aggravating factor on our part as it's surely an employers duty to educate staff on such things.
I'm sure we've all done some training of sort at work which is based on law/industry regulation. As well as education that also serves a purpose of an employer covering their arse.
In my opinion if Southampton gained no footballing advantage from the incident then there should be no reason to remove them from the playoffs.
If Southampton are found guilty of breaking the rules on spying then it should be a fine.
I do think that the EFL should have a defined set of punishments and trigger points for the different levels of punishment given for an offence giving clarity moving forward.
If Southampton are found guilty of breaking the rules on spying then it should be a fine.
I do think that the EFL should have a defined set of punishments and trigger points for the different levels of punishment given for an offence giving clarity moving forward.
For heavens sake, give them some better equipment.
That's the thing for me. It's all well and good the EFL deciding to react to the Bielsa incident a few years ago by bringing in a specific rule to outlaw spying. That's fine. But how stupid were they to not set out what the punishment would be if anyone was to break it? There is no precedent to go by when creating a new law, so you need to set it out in black and white.
It's become a farce, including getting Hull caught up in it (who are totally blameless), all because the EFL didn't think it necessary to include the punishment when bringing in the rule.
The rule was probably formulated by a junior intern, who has since moved on to other things
