Match Day Thread Play Off Final. Hull City v Boro

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If the match is moved to a night I feel sorry for all the kids who will have been so excited about going to Wembley, putting on the face paint etc, now they won't be able to go because it will mean a day off school, possibly two, late return and parents getting fined for non attendance - well done Southamton, you bunch of cheating ****s
It is half term luckily the week after , but a night game no good for the really young kids , and parents getting time off work another matter
 
I would argue it is the EFL’s fault a bit.
They could have foreseen this type of event and had a clear summary ruling in place.
That way if clubs knew spying would or wouldn’t potentially result in expulsion from the competition it would be easier to determine next steps. For example if it said the maximum sanction was fines and points deductions we’d could have all just got on.
If it said expulsion you’d hope that would have acted as a deterrent in the first place but at least we’d have all had a bit more to go on from the start.

It's the 21st century with drones and cameras that can see for miles. If clubs want to keep training secret then train inside, though even that has risks. The EFL/FA ****ed up by making spying illegal. It can't be stopped and they opened this can of worms.
 
I keep flipping between the EFL will bottle it and just a financial penalty and points deducted next season
To they will be aware that this punishment will set a precedent and throw the book at them
I'm coming around to the feeling Marv they will do the latter. The feeling against Southampton I think spreads from every boardroom in the country and thats without the clubs with evidence and the whistleblower. They have to uphold the integrity of the game. I actually can see a situation where they say, Southampton are eliminated with additional sanctions but Middlesbrough were beaten over two legs and that Hull City are promoted by forfeit. Some may think im stupid, some would be right. <laugh>
 

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So no refunds if not on the 23rd.

So they can come up with all those terms and conditions for a ticket, clearly defined for every eventuality AND YET
Spying on the opposing team 72hrs before kick off is illegal. Where's the term and conditions? Punishment and penalties?
 
So they can come up with all those terms and conditions for a ticket, clearly defined for every eventuality AND YET
Spying on the opposing team 72hrs before kick off is illegal. Where's the term and conditions? Punishment and penalties?

There wont be set punishments in the rules
 
The date of the final was set at the beginning of the competition, so isn't that contractual? A qualifying team wouldn't be allowed to not play on that date if they simply chose not to because it didn't suit for whatever reason.
So, don't make a decision on the other finalist, on the set date we turn up with no opposition and walk the ball into the net.
 
If Southampton are expelled, it has to be a City bye.

You cannot say the competition was “tainted” enough to remove Southampton, but then selectively restore Middlesbrough while ignoring every other club potentially affected across the season. If Boro are reinstated because Southampton allegedly gained an unfair advantage, then clubs like Wrexham could equally argue they were denied playoff places by the same misconduct.

At that point, there is no clean line to draw.

City are the only innocent club left completely untouched by the allegations. Making them suddenly prepare for a different opponent days before Wembley creates a second unfairness caused by Southampton’s actions.

A bye is the only outcome that:

  • removes the offending club,
  • avoids rewriting the entire season,
  • and prevents new sporting disadvantages for uninvolved teams.
The punishment should fall on Southampton alone, not create further chaos for everyone else.
 
If Southampton are expelled, it has to be a City bye.

You cannot say the competition was “tainted” enough to remove Southampton, but then selectively restore Middlesbrough while ignoring every other club potentially affected across the season. If Boro are reinstated because Southampton allegedly gained an unfair advantage, then clubs like Wrexham could equally argue they were denied playoff places by the same misconduct.

At that point, there is no clean line to draw.

City are the only innocent club left completely untouched by the allegations. Making them suddenly prepare for a different opponent days before Wembley creates a second unfairness caused by Southampton’s actions.

A bye is the only outcome that:

  • removes the offending club,
  • avoids rewriting the entire season,
  • and prevents new sporting disadvantages for uninvolved teams.
The punishment should fall on Southampton alone, not create further chaos for everyone else.
Say Boro get in and we lose to them; it's another can of worms. Playing a team that lost their semi-final etc.
 
If Southampton are expelled, it has to be a City bye.

You cannot say the competition was “tainted” enough to remove Southampton, but then selectively restore Middlesbrough while ignoring every other club potentially affected across the season. If Boro are reinstated because Southampton allegedly gained an unfair advantage, then clubs like Wrexham could equally argue they were denied playoff places by the same misconduct.

At that point, there is no clean line to draw.

City are the only innocent club left completely untouched by the allegations. Making them suddenly prepare for a different opponent days before Wembley creates a second unfairness caused by Southampton’s actions.

A bye is the only outcome that:

  • removes the offending club,
  • avoids rewriting the entire season,
  • and prevents new sporting disadvantages for uninvolved teams.
The punishment should fall on Southampton alone, not create further chaos for everyone else.
But it won’t. We all know they’ll get a fine. Then beat us and all will be forgotten
 
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