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KingHotspur said:
FWIW I don’t buy into the retractable pitch theory either.

I do think Spurs need to properly assess their medical team though as it’s more than just bad luck.
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This is the problem with modern football fans in general: the assumption that everything can be blamed on one person/object/philosophical concept so nothing else needs to be considered

For example, last season's injury problems were blamed squarely on our medical team when factors were right there, ranging for the more obvious (Ange's tactics and/or Ange's squad management), to having details weirdly omitted (players being rushed back into the starting xi when they receive the all-clear, impact injuries, Maddison and Bentancur's history of knee injuries)

This season it's the retractable pitch theory, all because one FC Franco fan posted a TikTok mentioning it while ignoring the history knee injuries to the likes of Carvajal to the fact the renovated Bernabeu has a hybrid pitch and there's a long record of teams playing on hybrid pitches being susceptible to knee injuries
 
Romero out for the season but will probably be fit in time for the world cup.

Tbh what we need now are cool heads that can just get on with it and not do anything stupid in crucial moments, and he is the opposite of that. Danso has barely put a foot wrong whenever called upon.

This could be a blessing in disguise.
 
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KingHotspur said:
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One season of injuries you can sort of write off as bad luck, three in a row tells me there’s something fundamentally wrong.

As to what it is or how, I dunno, I think Ange’s extreme style the previous two years played its part but it’s not the only reason. There’s so much that needs assessing and changing at the end of this season it’s ridiculous.

The board needs an overhaul (and ideally a buyout).
The medical dept needs another rejig.
There are players that need to be moved on, on top significant investment, whether we stay up or go down.
I really hope De Zerbi stays even if we do drop but if he does leave, that’s another thing that needs sorting.

Mental how such a big club has become a massive basket case and **** show.
 
KingHotspur said:
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That is a massive disadvantage, 85 more games lost than the next injury team, Newcastle, who are also struggling. Of course the more players you lose the bigger the stress on the remainder of the squad, it's a snowball effect. There is one factor that has caused damage that is very clear. Not to strengthen in the January window is a huge error of judgement. I think there was complete consensus in the fan base that players were needed. The Spurs hierarchy gambled with the status of this club and for that their status must change.

We can also see PL clubs with much less funding than Spurs who do an infinitely better job at recruiting players. They spend 15 or 20 million on players who are 50 - 80 million players in a season. We spend 50 - 60 million on players who become 20 million players in a season.

Look at Brentford, Brighton, Bournemouth and Palace, and compare their resources and recruiting to Spurs. They are not slightly better, they are out of sight.
 
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Dier Hard said:
One season of injuries you can sort of write off as bad luck, three in a row tells me there’s something fundamentally wrong.

As to what it is or how, I dunno, I think Ange’s extreme style the previous two years played its part but it’s not the only reason. There’s so much that needs assessing and changing at the end of this season it’s ridiculous.

The board needs an overhaul (and ideally a buyout).
The medical dept needs another rejig.
There are players that need to be moved on, on top significant investment, whether we stay up or go down.
I really hope De Zerbi stays even if we do drop but if he does leave, that’s another thing that needs sorting.

Mental how such a big club has become a massive basket case and **** show.
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The medical team can only do so much when managers are allergic to rotating the squad or want to rush their starting xi back ASAP due to being in arse-covering mode

We all made jokes about players being at 90% for 2-3 weeks under Poch, but that's a damn sight better than them being 85% so chuck them back into the starting xi and hope for the best like a game of Theme Hospital under Ange
 
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Dier Hard said:
One season of injuries you can sort of write off as bad luck, three in a row tells me there’s something fundamentally wrong.
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You have stats for injuries at PL clubs for some
three consecutive seasons ??

If so, will you be so kind as to post them here
(will be interesting to have a look) .
 
Dier Hard said:
One season of injuries you can sort of write off as bad luck, three in a row tells me there’s something fundamentally wrong.

As to what it is or how, I dunno, I think Ange’s extreme style the previous two years played its part but it’s not the only reason. There’s so much that needs assessing and changing at the end of this season it’s ridiculous.

The board needs an overhaul (and ideally a buyout).
The medical dept needs another rejig.
There are players that need to be moved on, on top significant investment, whether we stay up or go down.
I really hope De Zerbi stays even if we do drop but if he does leave, that’s another thing that needs sorting.

Mental how such a big club has become a massive basket case and **** show.
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As I've pointed out there are two sources of positive feedback. The more injuries you have the more demands on the fit players and injured players are more likely to be injured again. I've seen no statistics that demonstrate that this is statistically significant.
 
Spurf said:
That is a massive disadvantage, 85 more games lost than the next injury team, Newcastle, who are also struggling. Of course the more players you lose the bigger the stress on the remainder of the squad, it's a snowball effect. There is one factor that has caused damage that is very clear. Not to strengthen in the January window is a huge error of judgement. I think there was complete consensus in the fan base that players were needed. The Spurs hierarchy gambled with the status of this club and for that their status must change.

We can also see PL clubs with much less funding than Spurs who do an infinitely better job at recruiting players. They spend 15 or 20 million on players who are 50 - 80 million players in a season. We spend 50 - 60 million on players who become 20 million players in a season.

Look at Brentford, Brighton, Bournemouth and Palace, and compare their resources and recruiting to Spurs. They are not slightly better, they are out of sight.
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Brighton, Bournemouth and Brentford all have data based recruitment which seems to be able to pick the better players from the middle of the distribution which means they end up in the top half of the PL. However Spurs did much better than that for about 15 consecutive seasons and that outcome was unacceptable to the fans. They don't actually produce many really good players either. I can't find a way of checking but I think only one player from those teams has won the League and only two or three more have finished in the top four, mostly as squad players at Arsenal or Chelsea.
Crystal Palace have sold on three players (Olise, Guehi and Eze) who look really good and still have Wharton but I don't think that is evidence of a medium term edge.
 
PowerSpurs said:
There is no point in posting data then not analysing it. If you have information that disproves my take on it then post it.
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I didn't bother with it, as the table doesn't even have a title,
let alone a source citation.

< another sad day in the life of the UK education system >
 
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