Roberto De Zerbi & Johan Lange Watch

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Your Preference For Ange’s Replacement

  • Thomas Frank

  • Andoni Iraola

  • Simone Inzaghi

  • Marco Silva

  • Roberto Di Zerbi

  • Other (state in comments)

  • Oliver Glasner

  • Xavi

  • Mauricio Pochettino


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It’s hard to know what impact a new manager will have. It depends if the players like him and take on board his ideas quickly.
Michael Carrick took over as an inexperienced manager who had done OK in the Championship, but he’s proved (so far) to be an inspired choice. He’s done well by doing the most basic things;
1. Setting up the team in the formation which obviously suits them.
2. Playing players in their best position - round pegs in round holes.
3. Sending them to play with confidence and on the front foot.
4. Changing the mood in the dressing room by encouraging the players to express themselves, backing them 100% in front of the media and removing any fear of failure.
Utd have good players who, as a result, are playing at the level they should be. He got them there from game one.
Spurs have good players too.

Spurs are well beyond the point of it being just down to managers.

These players aren’t very good and can’t handle adversity. Weak mentality. He’s known for being confrontational, these players will probably cry rather than be inspired.
 
Spurs are well beyond the point of it being just down to managers.

These players aren’t very good and can’t handle adversity. Weak mentality. He’s known for being confrontational, these players will probably cry rather than be inspired.

If there were a group of players that gave a ****, we might stay up...but there isn't.

I doubt that De Zerbi will make a huge difference to the outcome. We've been utterly **** for the large part of 2 seasons, it would be utter madness to expect that he could turn things round in a few weeks. Neither he, nor the players, are that good.

When we are relegated, we will thoroughly have deserved it.
 
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So far in the Lange and Vinai reign of terror they've:

* Hired Frank after an in depth search evaluating 30+ managers.
* Built an unbalanced squad with a lack of wingers and creative players.
* Stuck with Frank because Vinai says he'll be like Arteta in the long run.
* Decided to stick with Frank after he got us into the tailspin we're currently in, because they didn't think relegation was a possibility.
* Sold Brennan without a replacement.
* Signed Connor Gallagher when we don't need another midfielder that can't pass.
* Congratulated themselves on not panicking in January.
* Hired Tudor to fix the everything in a month.

And now giving De Zerbi of all people a 5 year contract. Even ignoring the Greenwood stuff, and I don't think you should, we're bringing in a manager that's the opposite of a stabilising influence, plays football that our broken squad aren't suited to and has an unremarkable record.

At some point it should have occured to the owners and the board that the brain trust are only worth listening to, to find out what not to do. Even in his worst moments, Levy was better than anything this clown show has done this season.
 
So far in the Lange and Vinai reign of terror they've:

* Hired Frank after an in depth search evaluating 30+ managers.
* Built an unbalanced squad with a lack of wingers and creative players.
* Stuck with Frank because Vinai says he'll be like Arteta in the long run.
* Decided to stick with Frank after he got us into the tailspin we're currently in, because they didn't think relegation was a possibility.
* Sold Brennan without a replacement.
* Signed Connor Gallagher when we don't need another midfielder that can't pass.
* Congratulated themselves on not panicking in January.
* Hired Tudor to fix the everything in a month.

And now giving De Zerbi of all people a 5 year contract. Even ignoring the Greenwood stuff, and I don't think you should, we're bringing in a manager that's the opposite of a stabilising influence, plays football that our broken squad aren't suited to and has an unremarkable record.

At some point it should have occured to the owners and the board that the brain trust are only worth listening to, to find out what not to do. Even in his worst moments, Levy was better than anything this clown show has done this season.
Apart from that they’ve done a good job though, yeah?
 
So far in the Lange and Vinai reign of terror they've:

* Hired Frank after an in depth search evaluating 30+ managers.
* Built an unbalanced squad with a lack of wingers and creative players.
* Stuck with Frank because Vinai says he'll be like Arteta in the long run.
* Decided to stick with Frank after he got us into the tailspin we're currently in, because they didn't think relegation was a possibility.
* Sold Brennan without a replacement.
* Signed Connor Gallagher when we don't need another midfielder that can't pass.
* Congratulated themselves on not panicking in January.
* Hired Tudor to fix the everything in a month.

And now giving De Zerbi of all people a 5 year contract. Even ignoring the Greenwood stuff, and I don't think you should, we're bringing in a manager that's the opposite of a stabilising influence, plays football that our broken squad aren't suited to and has an unremarkable record.

At some point it should have occured to the owners and the board that the brain trust are only worth listening to, to find out what not to do. Even in his worst moments, Levy was better than anything this clown show has done this season.

Who appointed Lange & Vinai?

To see people pining for Levy is almost amusing. He’s a massive part of why Spurs are where they are right now. This has been coming for a couple of seasons.
 
Who appointed Lange & Vinai?

To see people pining for Levy is almost amusing. He’s a massive part of why Spurs are where they are right now. This has been coming for a couple of seasons.

Spot on.
Let's not forget that they were appointed after the 'major internal review' that came just two years after the last 'major internal review' that saw us bring in Scott Munn to supposedly lead us forward.

In short, Levy's track record in hiring executives is identical to his track record in hiring managers: abysmal.
 
Who appointed Lange & Vinai?

To see people pining for Levy is almost amusing. He’s a massive part of why Spurs are where they are right now. This has been coming for a couple of seasons.

I mean Vinai arrived in the summer and was taking Levy's job a few months later. Lange got promoted after Levy left. I find it pretty far fetched to believe that all the board changes and manager were all on levy when the "new" owners were pushing him out of the door. If it was, that's another reason the Enic kids are totally out of their depth. It's true that we've made some bad appointments as manager and dof but other than Nuno, who was a desperation hire, and Santini, I don't think one has fallen apart so quickly as Frank. Lange still identified some good signings for us but he's just been overpromoted and has too much influence now. That's why we have an unbalanced squad and a series of terrible managerial appointments.
 
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Hiring anyone on the football side of the business can never be much more than guess work. Over my lifetime there have been a ten or so managers who have made a demonstrable difference and even fewer people who have had an edge in recruitment. Our record on both is exactly what anyone should expect as the above average performers share no common indicators. Similarly with hiring medics and physios.

I also don't get this assertion that we have an unbalanced squad. We seem to have two players for every position plus some spares and some versatile ones. The issue is that too many have been injured to allow full understanding to develop especially in defence.
 
Hiring anyone on the football side of the business can never be much more than guess work. Over my lifetime there have been a ten or so managers who have made a demonstrable difference and even fewer people who have had an edge in recruitment. Our record on both is exactly what anyone should expect as the above average performers share no common indicators. Similarly with hiring medics and physios.

I also don't get this assertion that we have an unbalanced squad. We seem to have two players for every position plus some spares and some versatile ones. The issue is that too many have been injured to allow full understanding to develop especially in defence.

The squad is unbalanced. We have no proper cover for Udogie. Davies is finished at this level and Souza is a child. That flank has been a disaster as a result.

We have no proper cover for Vicario.

We have five box to box midfielders all with very similar attributes: Bissouma, Bentancur, Sarr, Gallagher, and Gray. There is only one who looks creative (Bergvall) and one who looks good defensively (Palhinha, although his anticipation is as poor as Hojbjerg's was. Superb tackler though).
 
The squad is unbalanced. We have no proper cover for Udogie. Davies is finished at this level and Souza is a child. That flank has been a disaster as a result.

We have no proper cover for Vicario.

We have five box to box midfielders all with very similar attributes: Bissouma, Bentancur, Sarr, Gallagher, and Gray. There is only one who looks creative (Bergvall) and one who looks good defensively (Palhinha, although his anticipation is as poor as Hojbjerg's was. Superb tackler though).
The creativity issue was caused by Maddison getting injured in pre-season...to add to Kulusevski being out. We tried to solve that with Eze and then Simons. Not sure who else we could have got in. We could have tried to get an extra left back on loan instead of Kolo Muani I suppose but any we didn't have any more money to spend. I don't regard Porro, Spence, Davies, Udogie plus Gray and van de Ven as being insufficient starting cover at full back in any case.
 
Hiring anyone on the football side of the business can never be much more than guess work. Over my lifetime there have been a ten or so managers who have made a demonstrable difference and even fewer people who have had an edge in recruitment. Our record on both is exactly what anyone should expect as the above average performers share no common indicators. Similarly with hiring medics and physios.

I also don't get this assertion that we have an unbalanced squad. We seem to have two players for every position plus some spares and some versatile ones. The issue is that too many have been injured to allow full understanding to develop especially in defence.

Don’t take this wrong way but how can someone think the squad is balanced? It’s a mish mash of players from multiple managers and systems but still lacks many things.

You keep saying it’s just down to injuries. It’s beyond that and that’s obvious isn’t it? Yes Spurs wouldn’t be fighting relegation if everyone was fit but that doesn’t excuse what we’ve seen domestically for the last two seasons.
 
The creativity issue was caused by Maddison getting injured in pre-season...to add to Kulusevski being out. We tried to solve that with Eze and then Simons. Not sure who else we could have got in. We could have tried to get an extra left back on loan instead of Kolo Muani I suppose but any we didn't have any more money to spend. I don't regard Porro, Spence, Davies, Udogie plus Gray and van de Ven as being insufficient starting cover at full back in any case.

Signing just Simons to cover two big injuries was silly. Everyone could see that he’s a kid with potential, not someone who can play and affect games every week. To then pay what Spurs did for him made it even worse. There’s a reason Barca and PSG happily moved him on and why Chelsea didn’t make a formal bid.
 
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Signing just Simons to cover two big injuries was silly. Everyone could see that he’s a kid with potential, not someone who can play and affect games every week. To then pay what Spurs did for him made it even worse. There’s a reason Barca and PSG happily moved him on and why Chelsea didn’t make a formal bid.
Uninterested outsider unwanted opinion. Simons is a donkey. If you paid more than a £ you were robbed.
 
Forget about Enic, Levy or Tudor, there will be plenty of time to criticise them in the summer.

The reality in front of us is that we have 7 games left with a possibility of 21 points.

To take the positives of this situation as it stands we have a new manager coming in with PL experience and he appears to be progressive, improves teams and has a reputation for developing players.

He has 10 days to work his magic and I really really hope after the Forest fiasco that this group of players finally realise we are in a dogfight to the end.
 
Signing just Simons to cover two big injuries was silly. Everyone could see that he’s a kid with potential, not someone who can play and affect games every week. To then pay what Spurs did for him made it even worse. There’s a reason Barca and PSG happily moved him on and why Chelsea didn’t make a formal bid.
If it was 'silly' then perhaps you could say who else we could have signed and how we could have financed that.
 
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The creativity issue was caused by Maddison getting injured in pre-season...to add to Kulusevski being out. We tried to solve that with Eze and then Simons. Not sure who else we could have got in.
That’s Lange job to worry about, unfortunately not much seems to go through that guy’s brain. Simons being his only answer further backs up the lack of thought (or anything) in that bloke’s head. Even more so when he decided to add Gallagher in January, as if we didn’t already have enough industrious CMs at the club as it is.
 
The creativity issue was caused by Maddison getting injured in pre-season...to add to Kulusevski being out. We tried to solve that with Eze and then Simons. Not sure who else we could have got in. We could have tried to get an extra left back on loan instead of Kolo Muani I suppose but any we didn't have any more money to spend. I don't regard Porro, Spence, Davies, Udogie plus Gray and van de Ven as being insufficient starting cover at full back in any case.
The obvious suggestion was adding some actual creativity into midfield, which has been sorely missing for a while

Instead we have a lot of box to box midfielders behind the AM, so nobody who can send a line-splitting pass 15-20 yards down the pitch
 
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