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How are Labour doing after their first 12 months


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... because we can ... and because your lot will be one of the next to get it ... an unfortunate fact of timing - if you'd been able to throw millions at buying success for decades prior to PSR coming in and effectively barring any newcomers doing the same ... you'd have been fine ...

No real difference (allowing for inflation) in what Citeh and Chelsea have done in the last 25 years to what United, Arsenal, Liverpool and Spurs (ranked in order of Premier League success) did during in the 25 years before that ... unfettered spending ...
Just looking, were Leicester even able to vote on the original PSR rules, don’t think they were PL in 2013.

As I have said before, not other clubs fault that they had set income streams and a big fanbase to support massive spending based on historical success.
 
The one PL share that all clubs in the league hold, Leicester returned theirs early. Either way, it just delayed the punishment by a year or so.

Doing so, now when the club Is in such a good position was the best outcome really.

6 point deduction versus the 20 the PL were after feels like a bit of a win, tbf...
 
Just looking, were Leicester even able to vote on the original PSR rules, don’t think they were PL in 2013.

As I have said before, not other clubs fault that they had set income streams and a big fanbase to support massive spending based on historical success.

If we didn't vote for it, it shouldn't apply to us ... plus having won it (without throwing billions at it to finally achieve it) we should have been granted perpetual immunity... just my opinion, of course...
 
Palestine action win high court battle for some shot I couldn’t be arsed reading after the headline


That certainly won’t encourage more Muslims to take over the streets of London shouting chants of hate and then claiming alarm and distress when people dare to tell them to **** off to Palestine

Country’s gone
 
Palestine action win high court battle for some shot I couldn’t be arsed reading after the headline


That certainly won’t encourage more Muslims to take over the streets of London shouting chants of hate and then claiming alarm and distress when people dare to tell them to **** off to Palestine

Country’s gone
It's gone straight to appeal mate, so they now have to wait the outcome of that. Also ministers are looking at pushing through that because criminal damage was done under the name of PA, then they get banned for that reason rather than terrorism. So they would label it as sabotage / criminal damage instead, and ban all groups under that heading, IF they break the law. Ie an event of not peaceful protest. That will not be an exact take of it, but my best understanding and explaining at this stage.
 
It's gone straight to appeal mate, so they now have to wait the outcome of that. Also ministers are looking at pushing through that because criminal damage was done under the name of PA, then they get banned for that reason rather than terrorism. So they would label it as sabotage / criminal damage instead, and ban all groups under that heading, IF they break the law. Ie an event of not peaceful protest. That will not be an exact take of it, but my best understanding and explaining at this stage.
Moving the goal posts again for the supporters of terror I see


The group broke into an army base and attacked our armed forces

Anyone else does that and it’s an act of war no?
 
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It's gone straight to appeal mate, so they now have to wait the outcome of that. Also ministers are looking at pushing through that because criminal damage was done under the name of PA, then they get banned for that reason rather than terrorism. So they would label it as sabotage / criminal damage instead, and ban all groups under that heading, IF they break the law. Ie an event of not peaceful protest. That will not be an exact take of it, but my best understanding and explaining at this stage.
It was pretty stupid to label them as a terrorist organisation because they sprayed a few planes. Yeah, that was pretty stupid itself, but they're kids, not people who are supposed to be running the govt.
 
Moving the goal posts again for the supporters of terror I see


The group broke into an army base and attacked our armed forces

Anyone else does that and it’s an act of war no?
I quite like the idea of groups getting banned if they engage in non peaceful protest, it simplifies it I think. The word terrorism has too many grey areas around it, and gives people loop holes to get out of it. Whereas if you are charged with a criminal event of ie criminal damage under the name of the group you are supporting, you get a straight ban.

Trouble is our laws are so out of date for the modern world. I wouldn't say breaking in an army base is an act of war, it;s an act of trespass. Hence why you use to see all the signs down at Hythe stating MOD, trespasses will be prosecuted (from memory that). Personally I wouldn't trespass on such grounds in case some ****er shot me. <laugh>
 
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It was pretty stupid to label them as a terrorist organisation because they sprayed a few planes. Yeah, that was pretty stupid itself, but they're kids, not people who are supposed to be running the govt.
A kid stabbed two other kids in a classroom the other day

They are terrorists committing criminal acts for / in support of a terrorist group
 
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I quite like the idea of groups getting banned if they engage in non peaceful protest, it simplifies it I think. The word terrorism has too many grey areas around it, and gives people loop holes to get out of it. Whereas if you are charged with any criminal event under the name of the group you are supporting, you get a straight ban.

Trouble is our laws are so out of date for the modern world. I wouldn't say breaking in an army base is an act of war, it;s an act of trespass. Hence why you use to see all the signs down at Hythe stating MOD, trespasses will be prosecuted (from memory that). Personally I wouldn't trespass on such grounds in case some ****er shot me. <laugh>
Nah not for me bro

Being anything but hardline with any groups that attack our army bases is asking for more

Life in prison for me

In Palestine
 
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Sounded like a kid in an act of revenge to me, because he got banned for fighting, I read somewhere.
You misunderstood me I think

Was just highlighting that kids or not they imo committed an act of war

I’ve edited the post above now
 
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You misunderstood me I think

Was just highlighting that kids or not they imo committed an act of war

I’ve edited the post above now
Fair enough. I think if you claim to be a peaceful protest group, and any of your members engage in criminal damage, whether in act of terrorism or sabotage, the law has the right to deal with you, and you should no longer be able to say your group is peaceful. People seem to think if they fly a certain flag it gives them a sense of immunity it dosen't.

Personally I'd also like that campaign group dealt with in Brighton - they are going round making a list of people who refuse to act in the way they want them to, it's like having Nazi's on our streets, oh a Jew lives there, and there, and there - needs to be knocked on the head.