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How are Labour doing after their first 12 months


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See this is the problem when you mention immigration

We absolutely need it to counter our aging workforce, skills gaps and pension forecasts

But as soon as it's brought up, people think it's about spongers and suicide bombers

That's the state of the debate in the UK
 
100,000 staffing shortfall in the NHS currently

Only due to increase
Easy…Get rid of millions of immigrants and no staff shortage

And if you can’t wipe your own are then its probably time to go tbh
 
Asylum is a different issue.

We need more skilled and unskilled workers.

That is the bottom line.
I don’t think anyone serious is arguing otherwise but it’s not the bottom line at all. A Latvian builder and a Congolese nurse are great. A Latvian builder, a Congolese nurse and ten Eritrean 30-year-old blokes pretending to be 17 and assaulting girls in parks in their free time aren’t. It’s more nuanced than Sucky or you would have it seem.
 
See this is the problem when you mention immigration

We absolutely need it to counter our aging workforce, skills gaps and pension forecasts

But as soon as it's brought up, people think it's about spongers and suicide bombers

That's the state of the debate in the UK
Nah bro the problem with immigration is people like you who think we can’t function as a society without it.

The uk done fine before mass immigration
 
I don’t think anyone serious is arguing otherwise but it’s not the bottom line at all. A Latvian builder and a Congolese nurse are great. A Latvian builder, a Congolese nurse and ten Eritrean 30-year-old blokes pretending to be 17 and assaulting girls in parks in their free time aren’t. It’s more nuanced than Sucky or you would have it seem.


Unfortunately we gave the spanners a vote on this issue, and they voted to send all the Latvian, Polish and Hungarian plumbers home. Which led to a Boris wave of Africans and Indians.

Not that there's anything wrong with Africans and Indians, but they are considerably more likely to be Muslim. And let's call out the elephant in the room; Muslims are this century's Jews, easy to hate with their strange religion, their beards and hats etc. You of all people should be able to see that btw.
 
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Unfortunately we gave the spanners a vote on this issue, and they voted to send all the Latvian, Polish and Hungarian plumbers home. Which led to a Boris wave of Africans and Indians.

Not that there's anything wrong with Africans and Indians, but they are considerably more likely to be Muslim. And let's call out the elephant in the room; Muslims are this century's Jews, easy to hate with their strange religion, their beards and hats etc. You of all people should be able to see that btw.
I don’t ever remember any Jews blowing up concerts or decapitating people in the street or gang raping young vulnerable girls and selling them on
 
Unfortunately we gave the spanners a vote on this issue, and they voted to send all the Latvian, Polish and Hungarian plumbers home. Which led to a Boris wave of Africans and Indians.

Not that there's anything wrong with Africans and Indians, but they are considerably more likely to be Muslim. And let's call out the elephant in the room; Muslims are this century's Jews, easy to hate with their strange religion, their beards and hats etc. You of all people should be able to see that btw.

Well no because there’s a quite obvious difference that while Jews faced immense persecution when first arriving in any sort of number, as a small group making up a tiny fraction of the population grew quickly to be net contributors to a huge extent probably pound for pound more than any minority, financially and otherwise.

And there’s a clear difference between our Boris bringing in Africans and Indians to do jobs white immigrants did and people who come here and add nothing positive. Brexit has proven to be pretty ****ing dumb but it’s barely relevant to this.
 
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I don’t ever remember any Jews blowing up concerts or decapitating people in the street or gang raping young vulnerable girls and selling them on
In the context of the argument, I'd say this is a fair point. My mum brought me up understanding that Jews were persecuted by the Nazi's, bit of an understatement for sure. I certainly remember watching many a war movie hoping the Jews could get to safety - hidden under floorboards or in places of worship to name but a few.

I never ever remember a Jew hurting anyone, not one person.

Yet now I live in a society where the EU and Blair have purposely flooded countries with migrants, that's not racist, that's the truth, it's an invasion and off the back of that we have seen what you state. I never remember any of this as a kid.

What I do remember in early youth/adult life is ****philes have always existed, abuse in childrens care homes has always existed, perpetrated by white christians and our politicans. Let's not get started on the Catholic church. We didn't have social media in them days, imagine if we did, the outpouring would have been just as rife.

So we've gone from a homemade problem to a political manmade problem - The only terrorist I knew was the IRA.

Personally I think the likes of Blair should hang, yet the craziness of the modern world wants to make him a peacemaker, the very guy that helped blow up the Middle East, and caused the grandscale problem we see today. I've come to the conclusion humanity is nuts.

As for the wiping arses problem, I have a real problem with Somalians and Sudanese that come here, have you seen what they are doing to one another, absolute butchery and you ask me not to be afraid in old age, god help us. It's ok to be concerned and it's down to politicians to mitigate those concerns, so far no politician has made a very good job of that - so you get what we see today, because they failed us.
 
I don’t ever remember any Jews blowing up concerts or decapitating people in the street or gang raping young vulnerable girls and selling them on


They were accused of all that **** in the 19th century. That’s when the Micks weren’t getting the blame for everything
 
They were accused of all that **** in the 19th century. That’s when the Micks weren’t getting the blame for everything
Were the accusations warranted because they did actually decapitate people in the street, blow up concerts full of kids and gang rape the native populations children.

You see where I’m going here yeh <laugh>

No according to you all us racists are scared of beards you absolute numpty <laugh>
 
Well no because there’s a quite obvious difference that while Jews faced immense persecution when first arriving in any sort of number, as a small group making up a tiny fraction of the population grew quickly to be net contributors to a huge extent probably pound for pound more than any minority, financially and otherwise.

And there’s a clear difference between our Boris bringing in Africans and Indians to do jobs white immigrants did and people who come here and add nothing positive. Brexit has proven to be pretty ****ing dumb but it’s barely relevant to this.


My point is that when your ancestors got here (and my Irish ancestors too) they faced the same prejudice Muslims face now. Eventually most shaved their beards off and stopped dressing like they’d just stepped out of the Ukrainian stettle, and got accepted. That took time though, and didn’t stop Oswald Mosley and his crew of Sucky bros trying to drive them out of East London