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The message is? A crime
We never had them ever did we
Jenrick is a ****ing joke of a politician
You are either an argumentative twat who does it just to be awkward, or an idiot. Or both I guess. I honestly can't decide; not that I'm particularly bothered either way.
 
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You've resorted to to attacking the messenger and ignoring the message.
If only it had been in the Daily Mail.
There was an infamous robbery at the Barclays in Richmond in the mid-70s where the female cashier got shot and killed. Thankfully not returned to those violent days, where that generation didn't care about murdering innocent women for money.
 
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There was an infamous robbery at the Barclays in Richmond in the mid-70s where the female cashier got shot and killed. Thankfully not returned to those violent days, where that generation didn't care about murdering innocent women for money.
We remember things like that because they were so rare.
Someone got stabbed, raped, shot, killed, or things like armed robberies, and it was massive news.
Nowadays it's an everyday event.
I remember the days when if someone was murdered say in Yorkshire, never mind in our own part of Yorkshire, it would be massive news. Nowadays it's sadly a regular occurrence.
Please stop talking so ****ing stupid.
 
We remember things like that because they were so rare.
Someone got stabbed, raped, shot, killed, or things like armed robberies, and it was massive news.
Nowadays it's an everyday event.
I remember the days when if someone was murdered say in Yorkshire, never mind in our own part of Yorkshire, it would be massive news. Nowadays it's sadly a regular occurrence.
Please stop talking so ****ing stupid.
Rapes rarely got reported in the 1970s and many women were murdered and it didn't make the news because they were classed as 'missing' - check out the stats of 'missing' women and children from that decade - where do you think they went? You don't hear about so many serial killers these days, do you..

Add onto this the historical ***** cases from children's homes, orphanages, borstals, church organisations etc. where children were ignored or not believed..

I think you've radicalised yourself, gfaw, and got sucked into thinking crime is a new thing.
 
Rapes rarely got reported in the 1970s and many women were murdered and it didn't make the news because they were classed as 'missing' - check out the stats of 'missing' women and children from that decade - where do you think they went? You don't hear about so many serial killers these days, do you..

Add onto this the historical ***** cases from children's homes, orphanages, borstals, church organisations etc. where children were ignored or not believed..

I think you've radicalised yourself, gfaw, and got sucked into thinking crime is a new thing.
Of course stuff went on, nobody is denying it.
If I'm radicalised (which is a plain stupid accusation) you are in complete denial.
We aren't going to change each other's minds, so crack on, but please at least keep a semblance of reality when talking about how things are nowadays in this country. I just hope that you and others wake up to, or admit to, reality soon ... and you will as it becomes even more undeniable.
 
Ye, it was a friendly dig. Every generation of pensioners thinks the world won't survive without them - it's a coping mechanism to feel valued once the opportunity to change the world has passed. There is a level of negativity and running the country down, whilst ignoring all the positives and good things - the UK is a world leader in many sectors, there are problems that politicians need to sort, but the Wheels will keep turning long after you and I are gone.
That’s very patronising to be honest , the world will survive without me but I’ve made my
mark. The world especially this country will be bloody awful for my grandkids - more threats , street crime - they are about 10 years of age and have had school red and blue alert training in case of a terror attack . !! .
As for the proper topic this country does not generate enough exportable product to bring enough revenue into it to cover its ‘internal expenses ‘ Sooner or later the economic bubble will burst totally - but the rich will be super rich and the rest will be left to flounder . Our social bill is way too high , greedy companies pay the absolute minimum. It’s ironic we create a ‘minimum ‘ wage to lift low wages but now it’s bar set to pay people less than they should have been paid . I guess you are at least 10 years or more younger than me so your views will be different - but the problems are evident to this who ‘choose’ to
Open their eyes And see beyond their front door .
 
Of course stuff went on, nobody is denying it.
If I'm radicalised (which is a plain stupid accusation) you are in complete denial.
We aren't going to change each other's minds, so crack on, but please at least keep a semblance of reality when talking about how things are nowadays in this country. I just hope that you and others wake up to, or admit to, reality soon ... and you will as it becomes even more undeniable.
Two fellas smashed a window of a jewellers in a wealthy area with a sledgehammer and ran off with some watches. If a former Tory MP wants to use this of an example of how a county is broken, a country that he had some control over politically for many years, and you're reacting to it, I think you're being played, gfaw.
 
Two fellas smashed a window of a jewellers in a wealthy area with a sledgehammer and ran off with some watches. If a former Tory MP wants to use this of an example of how a county is broken, a country that he had some control over politically for many years, and you're reacting to it, I think you're being played, gfaw.
I see you shifting the goal posts a bit there.
Ok yes, I guess I'm played every time I see a burglary like that in broad day light at 10.30 on a Saturday morning ...... and when I read about rape gangs going on for decades with heads turned, and stabbings, shootings, drug gangs across every city, town and even into villages, boat loads of undocumented illegals arriving daily and put into our communities with some then going on to harrass, rape even kill our own and many women afraid to go out, a welfare bill totally out of control, people literally filling shopping bags even trolleys in plain sight and just walking out, phone theft out of control, police forces stretched beyond their means due to other countries problems being played out on our streets day after day, people being jailed for hurty words, blatant anti-sematism, blatant 2 tier policing and justice, people who don't give a **** and have no respect, convicted terrorists putting themselves forward for election, democracy being taken away with elections being cancelled, the public being gaslighted again & again, our culture being eroded and our tolerance being exploited (often with tax payers own money), black economy thriving & taking the piss on every high street in plain sight, tens of millions being wasted on scheme after scheme that just avoids tackling the actual issues ......... I could go on and on and on. But of course, it's always been like this :emoticon-0112-wonde
I don't care so much about whether a specific individual was part of a broken party while all this grew, I care about it being fixed asap.
Yes, I'm wound up. I care. I don't understand why others don't. Blissfully ignorant? Naive? Blind? Suicidal empathy? Useful idiots?
Crack on, I'm ..... off for a walk before I explode :emoticon-0112-wonde
 
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I see you shifting the goal posts a bit there.
Ok yes, I guess I'm played every time I see a burglary like that in broad day light at 10.30 on a Saturday morning ...... and when I read about rape gangs going on for decades with heads turned, and stabbings, shootings, drug gangs across every city, town and even into villages, boat loads of undocumented illegals arriving daily and put into our communities with some then going on to harrass, rape even kill our own and many women afraid to go out, a welfare bill totally out of control, people literally filling shopping bags even trolleys in plain sight and just walking out, phone theft out of control, police forces stretched beyond their means due to other countries problems being played out on our streets day after day, people being jailed for hurty words, blatant anti-sematism, blatant 2 tier policing and justice, people who don't give a **** and have no respect, convicted terrorists putting themselves forward for election, democracy being taken away with elections being cancelled, the public being gaslighted again & again, tens of millions being wasted on scheme after scheme that just avoids tackling the actual issues ......... I could go on and on and on.
I don't care so much about whether a specific individual was part of a broken party while all this grew, I care about it being fixed asap.
Yes, I'm wound up. I care. I don't understand why others don't. Blissfully ignorant? Naive? Blind? Suicidal empathy? Useful idiots?
Crack on, I'm ..... off for a walk before I explode :emoticon-0112-wonde
Hope you’ve got a gun with you on your walk
It’s a jungle out there in leafy driff
 
I see you shifting the goal posts a bit there.
Ok yes, I guess I'm played every time I see a burglary like that in broad day light at 10.30 on a Saturday morning ...... and when I read about rape gangs going on for decades with heads turned, and stabbings, shootings, drug gangs across every city, town and even into villages, boat loads of undocumented illegals arriving daily and put into our communities with some then going on to harrass, rape even kill our own and many women afraid to go out, a welfare bill totally out of control, people literally filling shopping bags even trolleys in plain sight and just walking out, phone theft out of control, police forces stretched beyond their means due to other countries problems being played out on our streets day after day, people being jailed for hurty words, blatant anti-sematism, blatant 2 tier policing and justice, people who don't give a **** and have no respect, convicted terrorists putting themselves forward for election, democracy being taken away with elections being cancelled, the public being gaslighted again & again, tens of millions being wasted on scheme after scheme that just avoids tackling the actual issues ......... I could go on and on and on.
I don't care so much about whether a specific individual was part of a broken party while all this grew, I care about it being fixed asap.
Yes, I'm wound up. I care. I don't understand why others don't. Blissfully ignorant? Naive? Blind? Suicidal empathy? Useful idiots?
Crack on, I'm ..... off for a walk before I explode :emoticon-0112-wonde
I'd join you but my hips ****ed and I'm on the waiting list to see a specialist I'll then wait 5 years to have it replaced(or maybe get it done myself,privately,just for a giggle)...Same in the 70's apparently:emoticon-0127-lipss
 
I see you shifting the goal posts a bit there.
Ok yes, I guess I'm played every time I see a burglary like that in broad day light at 10.30 on a Saturday morning ...... and when I read about rape gangs going on for decades with heads turned, and stabbings, shootings, drug gangs across every city, town and even into villages, boat loads of undocumented illegals arriving daily and put into our communities with some then going on to harrass, rape even kill our own and many women afraid to go out, a welfare bill totally out of control, people literally filling shopping bags even trolleys in plain sight and just walking out, phone theft out of control, police forces stretched beyond their means due to other countries problems being played out on our streets day after day, people being jailed for hurty words, blatant anti-sematism, blatant 2 tier policing and justice, people who don't give a **** and have no respect, convicted terrorists putting themselves forward for election, democracy being taken away with elections being cancelled, the public being gaslighted again & again, tens of millions being wasted on scheme after scheme that just avoids tackling the actual issues ......... I could go on and on and on.
I don't care so much about whether a specific individual was part of a broken party while all this grew, I care about it being fixed asap.
Yes, I'm wound up. I care. I don't understand why others don't. Blissfully ignorant? Naive? Blind? Suicidal empathy? Useful idiots?
Crack on, I'm ..... off for a walk before I explode :emoticon-0112-wonde
No point robbing it during the night, when the shutters are down and the jewellery locked away in a safe, to be fair. And convicted terrorists have put themselves forward for election to the British Parliament since 1918.
 
No point robbing it during the night, when the shutters are down and the jewellery locked away in a safe, to be fair. And convicted terrorists have put themselves forward for election to the British Parliament since 1918.
Can you tell us about these terrorists in 1918?
 
I see you shifting the goal posts a bit there.
Ok yes, I guess I'm played every time I see a burglary like that in broad day light at 10.30 on a Saturday morning ...... and when I read about rape gangs going on for decades with heads turned, and stabbings, shootings, drug gangs across every city, town and even into villages, boat loads of undocumented illegals arriving daily and put into our communities with some then going on to harrass, rape even kill our own and many women afraid to go out, a welfare bill totally out of control, people literally filling shopping bags even trolleys in plain sight and just walking out, phone theft out of control, police forces stretched beyond their means due to other countries problems being played out on our streets day after day, people being jailed for hurty words, blatant anti-sematism, blatant 2 tier policing and justice, people who don't give a **** and have no respect, convicted terrorists putting themselves forward for election, democracy being taken away with elections being cancelled, the public being gaslighted again & again, our culture being eroded and our tolerance being exploited (often with tax payers own money), black economy thriving & taking the piss on every high street in plain sight, tens of millions being wasted on scheme after scheme that just avoids tackling the actual issues ......... I could go on and on and on. But of course, it's always been like this :emoticon-0112-wonde
I don't care so much about whether a specific individual was part of a broken party while all this grew, I care about it being fixed asap.
Yes, I'm wound up. I care. I don't understand why others don't. Blissfully ignorant? Naive? Blind? Suicidal empathy? Useful idiots?
Crack on, I'm ..... off for a walk before I explode :emoticon-0112-wonde
Well written GFAW it’s spot on , I’ve only touched on some of those points as it’s a massive topic . I just can’t see why so many on here are just so blissfully unaware of the deterioration , or choose to stay ignorant - maybe it makes them feel good ?
 
We remember things like that because they were so rare.
Someone got stabbed, raped, shot, killed, or things like armed robberies, and it was massive news.
Nowadays it's an everyday event.
I remember the days when if someone was murdered say in Yorkshire, never mind in our own part of Yorkshire, it would be massive news. Nowadays it's sadly a regular occurrence.
Please stop talking so ****ing stupid.

We've just established that homicides are at the lowest levels for 50 years so what are you on about?