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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

  • Stay in

    Votes: 56 47.9%

  • Get out

    Votes: 61 52.1%
  • Total voters
    117
  • Poll closed .
Wherever said:
Just watch out for the dm abuse as well, oh and I don’t think he is allowed crayons anymore
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Priceless.

I'd already decided not to respond to Roger any more, but you just had to to put your oar in didn't you? I haven't sent any DMs to Roger, abusive or otherwise, but you intimate that I have abused you via DM, which is something I need to rebut. As you're well aware, I did send once you a DM, but it wasn't abusive in any way, it was merely this...

What is your problem with me?

This being because you were constantly interjecting in exchanges I had with other posters to make snide derogatory comments about me, something that you continue to do.

This was your witty response...

You are **** on your shoe, you wipe it off but can still smell it

Who's abusing who there?
 
Yorkshire-Rs said:
Always love people who believe any far right **** Farage comes out with, get your facts straight at least
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here we go which one and is any ive mentioned nothing compared to what labour has put us through
Pensioners
farmers
Ed Miliband and the 4.9 billion wasted on green energy
Smash the gangs
Total for 2025: A total of 41,472 migrants
March 2025. Over 213 firms left or reduced UK operations since 2016
with over 4,400 directors moving abroad recently,
Company Shutdowns (2024-2025): The year ending March 2025 saw 726,735, a 9.6% increase in dissolutions from the previous year

Action urged to halt exodus of firms leaving UK​

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BBC
https://www.bbc.co.uk › news › articles
9 Jul 2025 — The exodus of firms from the London Stock Exchange has created a "pivotal moment" for the UK's financial services sector which requires
 
HAD TO HALT IT THERE LOADS MORE TO LIST BUT THAT WILL DO TO START WITH.
Rising Unemployment: By September to November 2025, the number of people unemployed rose to 1.84 million, with the unemployment rate increasing to 5.1%, its highest level since 2021 (excluding the pandemic) and the highest since 2016 in some reports
  • Overall Increase: Between June 2024 (before Labour took office) and September 2025, the number of unemployed people increased by 352,000.
  • Youth Unemployment: Young people have been significantly impacted, with the unemployment rate for 16 to 24-year-olds reaching 15.9% in the same period.
  • payrolled employees fell by 43,000 in the quarter to November 2025.
Historical Context
Historically, Conservative opposition MPs have claimed that unemployment has risen under every Labour government,

UK labour market statistics - The House of Commons Library​

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The House of Commons Library
https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk › cbp-9366
6 days ago — This paper provides the latest statistics and analysis of employment, unemployment, economic inactivity and earnings in the UK

Now tell me Labour works, they only succeed in making us poorer. They normally want you to vote for the opposition when they run out of other peoples money
 
Makemstine Roger said:
HAD TO HALT IT THERE LOADS MORE TO LIST BUT THAT WILL DO TO START WITH.
Rising Unemployment: By September to November 2025, the number of people unemployed rose to 1.84 million, with the unemployment rate increasing to 5.1%, its highest level since 2021 (excluding the pandemic) and the highest since 2016 in some reports
  • Overall Increase: Between June 2024 (before Labour took office) and September 2025, the number of unemployed people increased by 352,000.
  • Youth Unemployment: Young people have been significantly impacted, with the unemployment rate for 16 to 24-year-olds reaching 15.9% in the same period.
  • payrolled employees fell by 43,000 in the quarter to November 2025.
Historical Context
Historically, Conservative opposition MPs have claimed that unemployment has risen under every Labour government,

UK labour market statistics - The House of Commons Library​

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The House of Commons Library
https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk › cbp-9366
6 days ago — This paper provides the latest statistics and analysis of employment, unemployment, economic inactivity and earnings in the UK

Now tell me Labour works, they only succeed in making us poorer. They normally want you to vote for the opposition when they run out of other peoples money
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So why does all of this equate to doing better than EU countries?
Labour will never work under Starmer, I didn't vote for Labour with him in charge
 
Yorkshire-Rs said:
Always love people who believe any far right **** Farage comes out with, get your facts straight at least
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Look above for what you posted.
Farage listed some of the **** your lefty friend Starmer did, so I've published the facts .Is there anything you want to add about Farage that isn't lefty lies and bullshit please post
 
Stroller said:
I wonder if @Makemstine Roger will be in favour of this summary execution?

Probably.
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How do you know this was an execution, show the link if you believe it ,I bet it's an illegal murderer they have been hunting trying to escape justice. God knows there are thousands of them

Why Are Criminal Illegal Aliens Allowed to Roam U.S. ...​

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The Heritage Foundation
https://www.heritage.org › border-security › commentary

17 Oct 2024 — An illegal alien from Venezuela with a criminal record has been charged with murder in her death
 
Yorkshire-Rs said:
So why does all of this equate to doing better than EU countries?
Labour will never work under Starmer, I didn't vote for Labour with him in charge
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It's a tricky balancing act clinging to the pretence that Brexit was a good idea whilst also claiming that everything has gone to **** since we left and we need Brexit's arch proponent to come and save us.
 
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Weak kneed politicians didn't give us full exit, they only thought about their snouts in the trough, on the EU gravy train, the main thing we needed was to come out of the ECHR. THEY GAVE THEM FISHING RIGHTS ,THEN LABOUR GAVE THEM 12 years FREE COSTING US MILLIONS . Now we have polish factory ships scraping the seabed with dragnets destroying the sea bed and cleaning it bear, these are our fish breeding grounds so now they will wipe out this industry WELL DONE LABOUR .

If you took the time to watch the videos i poster you would know why rejoining the EU is a bad idea and it's better to push for full independence from them
 
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Makemstine Roger said:
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A bit before my time pal, although knew plenty who were there :emoticon-0165-muscl assume you're in there somewhere?

You have to wonder if we'd ever have a) the stomach and b) the manpower to do something like that again? Our Armed Forces have been so depleted by constant cutbacks by government after government that we'd struggle to defend the Channel Islands, let alone somewhere that far away. Didn't see our NATO allies jumping to our defence then, the French supplying fighter jets and rifles to the Argies and the US pussy-footing around with diplomatic talks.
 
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Steelmonkey said:
A bit before my time pal, although knew plenty who were there :emoticon-0165-muscl assume you're in there somewhere?

You have to wonder if we'd ever have a) the stomach and b) the manpower to do something like that again? Our Armed Forces have been so depleted by constant cutbacks by government after government that we'd struggle to defend the Channel Islands, let alone somewhere that far away. Didn't see our NATO allies jumping to our defence then, the French supplying fighter jets and rifles to the Argies and the US pussy-footing around with diplomatic talks.
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****ing French and their super etondare rocket all those lads lost on the Sir Galahad i was goose green 9 para re with 2 para
 
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You have to wonder if we'd ever have a) the stomach and b) the manpower to do something like that again? Our Armed Forces have been so depleted by constant cutbacks by government after government that we'd struggle to defend the Channel Islands, let alone somewhere that far away.


the army
Approximately 108,413 personnel
As of January 1, 2025, the British Army comprises approximately 108,413 personnel, which includes 73,847 regular full-time personnel, 4,127 Gurkhas, 25,742 volunteer reserve personnel, and 4,697 other personnel. This total reflects the ongoing commitment of the British Army to defend the UK and its territories.

the navy

As of December 2025, the British Navy consists of 63 active and commissioned ships, including submarines, and has a personnel strength of approximately 33,000 members in the Royal Navy or Royal Marines. Additionally, the total maritime forces include 70 vessels, which encompasses the Royal Navy Surface Fleet and Royal Fleet Auxiliary. Overall, the British Navy has a total strength of around 30,000 regular personnel.

the air force

As of 2025, the size of the British Air Force (RAF) is approximately:
 
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kiwiqpr said:
You have to wonder if we'd ever have a) the stomach and b) the manpower to do something like that again? Our Armed Forces have been so depleted by constant cutbacks by government after government that we'd struggle to defend the Channel Islands, let alone somewhere that far away.


the army
Approximately 108,413 personnel
As of January 1, 2025, the British Army comprises approximately 108,413 personnel, which includes 73,847 regular full-time personnel, 4,127 Gurkhas, 25,742 volunteer reserve personnel, and 4,697 other personnel. This total reflects the ongoing commitment of the British Army to defend the UK and its territories.

the navy

As of December 2025, the British Navy consists of 63 active and commissioned ships, including submarines, and has a personnel strength of approximately 33,000 members in the Royal Navy or Royal Marines. Additionally, the total maritime forces include 70 vessels, which encompasses the Royal Navy Surface Fleet and Royal Fleet Auxiliary. Overall, the British Navy has a total strength of around 30,000 regular personnel.

the air force

As of 2025, the size of the British Air Force (RAF) is approximately:
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I would have always fought for my country but with these ****ers in charge never again im a 2413
8 figure need i say more youll know where i served
 
Makemstine Roger said:
I would have always fought for my country but with these ****ers in charge never again im a 2413
8 figure need i say more youll know where i served
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You'll be too old for reserves, even with the new proposal. Thought I'd done my time on the reserve list, but looks like I'll have a few more years left now...

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Star of David Bardsley said:
Also I've backed Burnham to be next Labour leader because he seemed the appropriately grey candidate to lose the next election before Umunna is ready to give it a proper go. Hope he puts in a good performance.
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Wow 11 years ago, so Burnham is now barred from being an MP for being anything but grey. Massive shame would of actually stood up for his belief, not just pretended like Starmer. FFS hurry up Corbyn get your party sorted, and make Burnham your leader
 
Yorkshire-Rs said:
Wow 11 years ago, so Burnham is now barred from being an MP for being anything but grey. Massive shame would have actually stood up for his belief, not just pretended like Starmer. FFS hurry up Corbyn get your party sorted, and make Burnham your leader
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Glad I got the Umunna PM prediction right at least. Think he’s got some nonsense incredibly lucrative job at a bank now.


Global Head of Sustainable Solutions & EMEA Head of Green Economy Investment Banking, where he will co-lead the firm's global ESG practice.

Sounds like fun.
 
The Gorton and Denton by-election will be fascinating. Polls are suggesting a Reform win with current candidates, but that Labour would have won with Andy Burnham. However, in a constituency with a high immigrant population, Reform have selected one of their top racist bigots as their candidate. I feel this could be a litmus test indicator for the eventual General Election, with anti-Reform voters coalescing to keep out the far-right scumbags.

I'm on the Greens at 11/8.
 
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It’s a by-election so it obviously won’t be. Galloway will be all over it in his **** hat to split the vote and get some attention then blame the Jews when he scrapes 5%. Will the Tories even bother?
 
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