Off Topic The politics thread - Starmer/Reeves/Farage etc.

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Yet you will defend the Labour Party no matter what. This I can't get my head around. If Farage ( not that he would) but , jumped ship to the Labour Party and ended up their leader , you would vote for him.
I've said before I don't support any party.
However Labour have been ****, tories even ****ter and reform are just a complete joke of a political party
That doesn't mean because Labour are the least ****est that they are good.
Your defense when anything they do wrong is pointed out is, well the tories were worse.
There are a couple of things they have done so far that I've been impressed with and if they push forward with implementing a lot of Denmarks immigration laws I would be very tempted to vote for them at the next election.
However the fact quite a few back benchers are in disagreement with it I'm not sure it will go through.
If it doesn't them I'm sure the tories will be all over if for the next election.
The false news narrative comes from the US right when people like Trump can’t understand complex issues or anything that doesn’t fit with their narrative. It’s seeping into this country and it’s certainly not healthy for our politics.

Not a member of the Labour Party and have voted for other parties in the past. However, I will call out racist lying politicians. Given the incompetence and corruption of the last Tory government (23,000 lives)I don’t thinkI’m alone in my criticism. If that makes me a Labour lovvie il hold my hands up. Are Labour perfect? Certainly not but compared to that lot certainly not the worst.

As a general point as I have said we need robust immigration and the government need to get on top of it. Robust immigration based on the economic needs and demands on public services not racism or soft racism pushed by the topic of this thread Nigel Farage.
 
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Yeah I don't get this one, on the one hand trying to push people towards EV use yet on the other adding a charge per mile.
They need to put that tax on the money grabbing, rip off charging network firms like Gridserve and Instavolt etc. Even Elon charges customes less than they do.
Oh and make it obvious to everyone how much it costs to charge before you stop and plug in.
 
Booing the update that the 2 child benefit rule is being lifted is absolutely embarrassing from the opposition.
There is a thing called birth control. If you can't afford to bring them up dont have 3,4,5 kids.
Yes there are circumstances where families break down, people loose there jobs, ive been there myself.
However there are so many instances of people claiming benefits, just popping kids out for fun. These are probably the majority claiming child poverty, yet they all have sky, netflix, latest phones on contract.
I'm not sure what the answer is, but this needs to stop so genuine people are able to get the help when they need it.
Rather than a system that just allows itself to be abused by greedy lazy people
 
Kemi was brutal like! She had her valid points to put across but I thought she got too personal at times.
I agree.<ok>
But at least it was a woman against a woman
I think it would have been worse if a man was attacking her.
Reeves will probably get her own back in the next question time <laugh>
 
There is a thing called birth control. If you can't afford to bring them up dont have 3,4,5 kids.
Yes there are circumstances where families break down, people loose there jobs, ive been there myself.
However there are so many instances of people claiming benefits, just popping kids out for fun. These are probably the majority claiming child poverty, yet they all have sky, netflix, latest phones on contract.
I'm not sure what the answer is, but this needs to stop so genuine people are able to get the help when they need it.
Rather than a system that just allows itself to be abused by greedy lazy people
There is a thing called birth control. If you can't afford to bring them up dont have 3,4,5 kids.
Yes there are circumstances where families break down, people loose there jobs, ive been there myself.
However there are so many instances of people claiming benefits, just popping kids out for fun. These are probably the majority claiming child poverty, yet they all have sky, netflix, latest phones on contract.
I'm not sure what the answer is, but this needs to stop so genuine people are able to get the help when they need it.
Rather than a system that just allows itself to be abused by greedy lazy people
I don’t know the answer either , but constantly handing out more and more is unsustainable. More given , the more is expected and demanded, and it’s giving even more incentive for people ( from cultures of large families) to relocate themselves here.
 
The false news narrative comes from the US right when people like Trump can’t understand complex issues or anything that doesn’t fit with their narrative. It’s seeping into this country and it’s certainly not healthy for our politics.

Not a member of the Labour Party and have voted for other parties in the past. However, I will call out racist lying politicians. Given the incompetence and corruption of the last Tory government (23,000 lives)I don’t thinkI’m alone in my criticism. If that makes me a Labour lovvie il hold my hands up. Are Labour perfect? Certainly not but compared to that lot certainly not the worst.

As a general point as I have said we need robust immigration and the government need to get on top of it. Robust immigration based on the economic needs and demands on public services not racism or soft racism pushed by the topic of this thread Nigel Farage.
But a lot of Labour backbenchers do not want to stop the mass immigration.