Not at all a fan of Starmer. Think he has been handed a poisoned chalice and he has made an absolute ****ing mess of it.
Off Topic The politics thread - Starmer/Reeves/Farage etc.
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I was replying to the comment the tories had a nerve to criticise Labour sleeze. Labours problem is they were so strong on tory sleeze they now have to live to the standard they set. I think they have created a rod for their own back.
In the case of Reeves I am pleased it is a non-story personally. I said earlier it felt minor and hardly worth losing your job over. But the problem remains for Labour that every little sniff of sleeze will be whipped up. Brought that on themselves sadly. I would sooner they all spent more time leading our country than answering conduct questions.
Has alot of it being down to the lack of commonsense on both sides and transparecy
Sorry about the spelling mistakes before the leftys jump on it.
Argh, I missed the nuance. Regarding the rod, Starmer bats with a straight bat. As I've said, maybe on another thread, politics has become poorer, it's now just a case of mud slinging. Waiting for something to stick, or get a bite, then just drip feed further revelations. As someone else, maybe you, said, there are no more statesmen in politics. I believe Starmer will prove a few wrong.
I really hope you are right mate. I really do. We need him and his team to have a stellar next few years for all of our wellbeing and most importantly to me our kids futures. The alternatives right now to Labour are awful, Lib Dems possibly excepted. I hope he battons down the hatches, puts his team on high alert and goes for the big political policies that will make the difference for the next 30 or 40 years.
Nothing to see here 
LABOUR SCANDALS SINCE COMING TO POWER
Labour swept into power in July last year with a resounding general election win, off the back of promises of "change".
But it's been a rocky first 14 months in power - here are the main scandals and controversies so far...
September 2024 - Freebie-gate
There was outrage over the number of freebies Labour ministers - including Sir Keir Starmer - took from various sources, including concert tickets, football tickets, and more.
Lord Alli was a particularly prolific donor, and the PM was in hot water when it emerged he had failed to declare that some of his wife's high-end clothes were bought for her by the Labour peer.
November 2024 - Reeves's CV
Questions were raised about inaccuracies in the chancellor's CV and her use of expenses in a previous job, and she was accused of saying she worked for the Bank of England for longer than she did.
Reeves's spokesperson said she was "not aware of an investigation, nor was she interviewed". Her lawyer has denied the allegations.
November 2024 - transport secretary resignation
Louise Haigh resigned as transport secretary hours after Sky News revealed that she pleaded guilty to an offence related to incorrectly telling police that a work mobile phone was stolen in 2013.
January 2025 - Treasury minister resignation
Tulip Siddiq resigned as a Treasury minister after controversy over links to her aunt's ousted political movement in Bangladesh - although she was found not to have breached the ministerial code.
February 2025 - Labour MP jailed for assault
MP Mike Amesbury was jailed for assault after punching a man in the street. He later quit the Commons.
February 2025 - health minister sacked
Andrew Gwynne was sacked as a health minister after he reportedly made antisemitic comments and 'joked' about a pensioner constituent, saying he hoped she died before the next election, according to the Mail on Sunday.
February 2025 - cabinet minister apology
The then business secretary, Jonathan Reynolds, apologised in the Commons after it emerged he claimed to be a solicitor - despite not finishing his training.
May 2025 - Grooming gangs 'dog whistle' controversy
The Tories demanded the resignation of Lucy Powell as Commons leader after she referred to calls for a grooming gangs inquiry as a "dog whistle". She later apologised and said she takes the issue with the utmost seriousness.
After being sacked from the cabinet in September, she was elected Labour deputy leader in October.
August 2025 - homelessness minister resignation
Homelessness minister Rushanara Ali resigned after reportedly hiking the rent on a property she owns by hundreds of pounds - something described by one of her tenants as "extortion".
September 2025 - deputy PM resignation
Angela Rayner resigned as deputy PM, housing secretary, and Labour deputy leader when she was found to have breached the ministerial code after admitted to Sky News that she underpaid stamp duty on a new property in Hove.
September 2025 - Mandelson sacked as US ambassador
Peter Mandelson was sacked as the UK's ambassador to the US over his ties to disgraced financier Jeffrey Epstein after new emails revealed the Labour peer sent messages of support to Epstein even as he faced jail for sex offences in 2008.
October 2025
Rachel Reeves rents her house without the correct licence in place. £57k from rental payments. Got caught.. denies knowing a licence is needed from the council where the house is situated..
The Chancellor doesn't know the law regarding rental properties.
LABOUR SCANDALS SINCE COMING TO POWER
Labour swept into power in July last year with a resounding general election win, off the back of promises of "change".
But it's been a rocky first 14 months in power - here are the main scandals and controversies so far...
September 2024 - Freebie-gate
There was outrage over the number of freebies Labour ministers - including Sir Keir Starmer - took from various sources, including concert tickets, football tickets, and more.
Lord Alli was a particularly prolific donor, and the PM was in hot water when it emerged he had failed to declare that some of his wife's high-end clothes were bought for her by the Labour peer.
November 2024 - Reeves's CV
Questions were raised about inaccuracies in the chancellor's CV and her use of expenses in a previous job, and she was accused of saying she worked for the Bank of England for longer than she did.
Reeves's spokesperson said she was "not aware of an investigation, nor was she interviewed". Her lawyer has denied the allegations.
November 2024 - transport secretary resignation
Louise Haigh resigned as transport secretary hours after Sky News revealed that she pleaded guilty to an offence related to incorrectly telling police that a work mobile phone was stolen in 2013.
January 2025 - Treasury minister resignation
Tulip Siddiq resigned as a Treasury minister after controversy over links to her aunt's ousted political movement in Bangladesh - although she was found not to have breached the ministerial code.
February 2025 - Labour MP jailed for assault
MP Mike Amesbury was jailed for assault after punching a man in the street. He later quit the Commons.
February 2025 - health minister sacked
Andrew Gwynne was sacked as a health minister after he reportedly made antisemitic comments and 'joked' about a pensioner constituent, saying he hoped she died before the next election, according to the Mail on Sunday.
February 2025 - cabinet minister apology
The then business secretary, Jonathan Reynolds, apologised in the Commons after it emerged he claimed to be a solicitor - despite not finishing his training.
May 2025 - Grooming gangs 'dog whistle' controversy
The Tories demanded the resignation of Lucy Powell as Commons leader after she referred to calls for a grooming gangs inquiry as a "dog whistle". She later apologised and said she takes the issue with the utmost seriousness.
After being sacked from the cabinet in September, she was elected Labour deputy leader in October.
August 2025 - homelessness minister resignation
Homelessness minister Rushanara Ali resigned after reportedly hiking the rent on a property she owns by hundreds of pounds - something described by one of her tenants as "extortion".
September 2025 - deputy PM resignation
Angela Rayner resigned as deputy PM, housing secretary, and Labour deputy leader when she was found to have breached the ministerial code after admitted to Sky News that she underpaid stamp duty on a new property in Hove.
September 2025 - Mandelson sacked as US ambassador
Peter Mandelson was sacked as the UK's ambassador to the US over his ties to disgraced financier Jeffrey Epstein after new emails revealed the Labour peer sent messages of support to Epstein even as he faced jail for sex offences in 2008.
October 2025
Rachel Reeves rents her house without the correct licence in place. £57k from rental payments. Got caught.. denies knowing a licence is needed from the council where the house is situated..
The Chancellor doesn't know the law regarding rental properties.
I quote their policies all the time. You won’t open your mind to the fact that the only financial benefit of them is for the richest coupled with the fact that leaving the ECHR will leave workers with no rights. That’s what you’re supporting- not me and you unless you’re worth a wedge.
You say it’s garbage - Farage and co hate the EU, doesn’t want anyone not British born living here, has issues with non Christian religions, brown and black faces in the street, now the LGBT. Are you arguing your idols aren’t discriminatory? Go on show me I’m wrong and I’ll show you I’m right with quotes.
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That should simply be the end of it, obviously it won't as the the Tories and Reform will grab onto anything in an attempt to stay in the news no matter the factuality of the subject. People will say she should have checked that the letting agent was doing everything by the book but seriously doubt anyone has ever done that.
It was a mistake by the agent, which has embarrassed the Chancellor. The agent has apologized, time to move onto actual real issues that need addressing in the country instead of wasting time on something like this.
In cases like this Labour need to just no longer comment on the matter as they have a tendency to make things worse when they do.
All of that in year what else is hidden.Nothing to see here
LABOUR SCANDALS SINCE COMING TO POWER
Labour swept into power in July last year with a resounding general election win, off the back of promises of "change".
But it's been a rocky first 14 months in power - here are the main scandals and controversies so far...
September 2024 - Freebie-gate
There was outrage over the number of freebies Labour ministers - including Sir Keir Starmer - took from various sources, including concert tickets, football tickets, and more.
Lord Alli was a particularly prolific donor, and the PM was in hot water when it emerged he had failed to declare that some of his wife's high-end clothes were bought for her by the Labour peer.
November 2024 - Reeves's CV
Questions were raised about inaccuracies in the chancellor's CV and her use of expenses in a previous job, and she was accused of saying she worked for the Bank of England for longer than she did.
Reeves's spokesperson said she was "not aware of an investigation, nor was she interviewed". Her lawyer has denied the allegations.
November 2024 - transport secretary resignation
Louise Haigh resigned as transport secretary hours after Sky News revealed that she pleaded guilty to an offence related to incorrectly telling police that a work mobile phone was stolen in 2013.
January 2025 - Treasury minister resignation
Tulip Siddiq resigned as a Treasury minister after controversy over links to her aunt's ousted political movement in Bangladesh - although she was found not to have breached the ministerial code.
February 2025 - Labour MP jailed for assault
MP Mike Amesbury was jailed for assault after punching a man in the street. He later quit the Commons.
February 2025 - health minister sacked
Andrew Gwynne was sacked as a health minister after he reportedly made antisemitic comments and 'joked' about a pensioner constituent, saying he hoped she died before the next election, according to the Mail on Sunday.
February 2025 - cabinet minister apology
The then business secretary, Jonathan Reynolds, apologised in the Commons after it emerged he claimed to be a solicitor - despite not finishing his training.
May 2025 - Grooming gangs 'dog whistle' controversy
The Tories demanded the resignation of Lucy Powell as Commons leader after she referred to calls for a grooming gangs inquiry as a "dog whistle". She later apologised and said she takes the issue with the utmost seriousness.
After being sacked from the cabinet in September, she was elected Labour deputy leader in October.
August 2025 - homelessness minister resignation
Homelessness minister Rushanara Ali resigned after reportedly hiking the rent on a property she owns by hundreds of pounds - something described by one of her tenants as "extortion".
September 2025 - deputy PM resignation
Angela Rayner resigned as deputy PM, housing secretary, and Labour deputy leader when she was found to have breached the ministerial code after admitted to Sky News that she underpaid stamp duty on a new property in Hove.
September 2025 - Mandelson sacked as US ambassador
Peter Mandelson was sacked as the UK's ambassador to the US over his ties to disgraced financier Jeffrey Epstein after new emails revealed the Labour peer sent messages of support to Epstein even as he faced jail for sex offences in 2008.
October 2025
Rachel Reeves rents her house without the correct licence in place. £57k from rental payments. Got caught.. denies knowing a licence is needed from the council where the house is situated..
The Chancellor doesn't know the law regarding rental properties.
Ah well, at least they're not ripping the taxpayer off for billions (that's BILLIONS) due to handing out under the counter contracts for PPE to their associates. All relative imo.Nothing to see here
LABOUR SCANDALS SINCE COMING TO POWER
Labour swept into power in July last year with a resounding general election win, off the back of promises of "change".
But it's been a rocky first 14 months in power - here are the main scandals and controversies so far...
September 2024 - Freebie-gate
There was outrage over the number of freebies Labour ministers - including Sir Keir Starmer - took from various sources, including concert tickets, football tickets, and more.
Lord Alli was a particularly prolific donor, and the PM was in hot water when it emerged he had failed to declare that some of his wife's high-end clothes were bought for her by the Labour peer.
November 2024 - Reeves's CV
Questions were raised about inaccuracies in the chancellor's CV and her use of expenses in a previous job, and she was accused of saying she worked for the Bank of England for longer than she did.
Reeves's spokesperson said she was "not aware of an investigation, nor was she interviewed". Her lawyer has denied the allegations.
November 2024 - transport secretary resignation
Louise Haigh resigned as transport secretary hours after Sky News revealed that she pleaded guilty to an offence related to incorrectly telling police that a work mobile phone was stolen in 2013.
January 2025 - Treasury minister resignation
Tulip Siddiq resigned as a Treasury minister after controversy over links to her aunt's ousted political movement in Bangladesh - although she was found not to have breached the ministerial code.
February 2025 - Labour MP jailed for assault
MP Mike Amesbury was jailed for assault after punching a man in the street. He later quit the Commons.
February 2025 - health minister sacked
Andrew Gwynne was sacked as a health minister after he reportedly made antisemitic comments and 'joked' about a pensioner constituent, saying he hoped she died before the next election, according to the Mail on Sunday.
February 2025 - cabinet minister apology
The then business secretary, Jonathan Reynolds, apologised in the Commons after it emerged he claimed to be a solicitor - despite not finishing his training.
May 2025 - Grooming gangs 'dog whistle' controversy
The Tories demanded the resignation of Lucy Powell as Commons leader after she referred to calls for a grooming gangs inquiry as a "dog whistle". She later apologised and said she takes the issue with the utmost seriousness.
After being sacked from the cabinet in September, she was elected Labour deputy leader in October.
August 2025 - homelessness minister resignation
Homelessness minister Rushanara Ali resigned after reportedly hiking the rent on a property she owns by hundreds of pounds - something described by one of her tenants as "extortion".
September 2025 - deputy PM resignation
Angela Rayner resigned as deputy PM, housing secretary, and Labour deputy leader when she was found to have breached the ministerial code after admitted to Sky News that she underpaid stamp duty on a new property in Hove.
September 2025 - Mandelson sacked as US ambassador
Peter Mandelson was sacked as the UK's ambassador to the US over his ties to disgraced financier Jeffrey Epstein after new emails revealed the Labour peer sent messages of support to Epstein even as he faced jail for sex offences in 2008.
October 2025
Rachel Reeves rents her house without the correct licence in place. £57k from rental payments. Got caught.. denies knowing a licence is needed from the council where the house is situated..
The Chancellor doesn't know the law regarding rental properties.
Read something the other day about Wes Streeting taking money from private healthcare companies while sorting out the NHS.
Oops sorry lads and lasses I forgot this thread is about Starmer
Hurrah someone has come onto the thread with an alternative point of view maybe now we will get some input from them instead of attacking individuals. Welcome ned werby.
So how do you think Starmer is doing?
And how you think he can turn it around, if he can he may get my vote.
Oh and by the way the misdoings were by the tory party this thread is about Starmer
I want borders like they used to be before the manipulation of the truth before Brexit. Controlled and an agreement to share numbers. Not this fantasy being put out that you’ll ever stop it. Basically people talking **** again so they can stop their wealth being contributed to public services.
Starmer's been dealt a **** hand, there's no doubt about that. But, he's not handling it as well as could be expected that's for certain also. He needs to get on top of the little stuff (and that list further up the thread can largely be defined as 'little stuff' imo - let's be honest who gives a flying one that Reeves' estate agent ****ed up the license thing - it's £975 for God's sake) so that he, and his cabinet, can focus completely on the 'big stuff' (deficit, nhs, education, law and order and yes, immigration).
They're not wholly mitigating factors but the wars in Ukraine and Gaza have meant resources which could have be used at home have had to be diverted away, Trump's tariffs have shagged the global economy, putting more pressure on markets which were previously free-flowing and world Politics (with a capital 'P') have never been so divided, there no consensus between red and blue anymore, just a media driven bull-bait to be 'right'.
We're in a post-truth world where facts are an inconvenience, social media is completely corrupt and politicians of all stripes have no real life experience of running a small company let alone a Government. Add to that the supposed 'leader of the free world' is a ****ing grifting idiot who seems hell-bent on corrupting all meaningful attempts to resolve the wars (he hasn't brokered a ceasefire in Gaza, he's given the Israeli's a breakwater so they can regroup before they go again - mark my words) then the UK government, along with the EU and NATO don't know which way to turn.
He's had 14 months, give him 24 before getting the pitchforks and tar out is my opinion, for better or worse - and it could be a hell of a lot worse.
Is it the media that stop this logical comment from an audience member becoming a more important discussion ? Or do people not give a **** about child poverty ?
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Interesting how 37000 people become more important than the wellbeing of our children
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Interesting how 37000 people become more important than the wellbeing of our children
After this I’m not commenting on an active reform member’s threads. For clarity I’m a member of no party and I’m not sure who I’ll vote for next time but I know two parties I wont vote for based on policy and ideology alone
Why, you would wonder, did Reeves not say this in the first place? Why wait until the heat is on? It would have been clearer to explain the agent's role as soon as the matter was brought up.
Not that it matters at all. Ignorance of the law is not, and never was an excuse for breaking it. It is her direct responsibility to comply with it.
And especially in this case, as Reeves had previously campaigned for these licences to be introduced in Leeds, so she can hardly plead ignorance.
Again though, to me this a small matter, and in another time would have merited little attention. But Starmer and his colleagues, including Reeves, put themselves on a high pedestal for years, enjoying public, moral grandstanding whenever there was the slightest chance.
They have created the circumstances of which they are falling foul, and are finding the real world very uncomfortable.