Match Day Thread NUFC vs Arsenal

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Ultimately we look crap. Just plain crap. Not intense, not interesting, not clever, not dynamic, not fit enough, not interested, not exciting, just crap.
So go watch someone else on the telly then you boring ****. It’s not like your local and bred into it like it’s a religion.
 
Some managers are good at reading the game and making little tweaks.. I don't think Howes good at that area of the job.
It's either that he can't read the game or he believes in his plan even when it's not working and keeps ploughing ahead with it.

There's plenty he's absolutely brilliant at upto including how he conducts himself, but you'd have to be blind to not notice what people have been saying about in game changes at this point.. It's been going on for years.
 
Some managers are good at reading the game and making little tweaks.. I don't think Howes good at that area of the job.
It's either that he can't read the game or he believes in his plan even when it's not working and keeps ploughing ahead with it.

There's plenty he's absolutely brilliant at upto including how he conducts himself, but you'd have to be blind to not notice what people have been saying about in game changes at this point.. It's been going on for years.
Yeah subs on at 65 mins no matter the situation.
 
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There's also a psychological issue to deal with because they've painful late defeats will be difficult for the players to overcome.. It'll probably keep happening because they'll start thinking about it and making bad decisions as the pressure moments arrive.

Pope despite his great saves cost us vs Liverpool and Arsenal doing exactly the same thing....he gets a bit nutty.

It's not all Howe at this point... It's the entire lot of them with problems to overcome.
 
There's also a psychological issue to deal with because they've painful late defeats will be difficult for the players to overcome.. It'll probably keep happening because they'll start thinking about it and making bad decisions as the pressure moments arrive.

Pope despite his great saves cost us vs Liverpool and Arsenal doing exactly the same thing....he gets a bit nutty.

It's not all Howe at this point... It's the entire lot of them with problems to overcome.
But is that Pope or the people in front of him?
 
But is that Pope or the people in front of him?

When he kicks it straight to the other side it's him... Great shot stopper and kept us in the game, but we needed to keep the ball second half and no changes were made that helped.

That's all people at getting at I guess and I think the players now have some scars.
 
This time 4 years ago we were bottom of the league with Ashley.

As things go, I think we're in a rather good position now. And Arsenal are good btw, and they hardly outplayed us.

This is all great but nobody is saying otherwise anyway
 
So go watch someone else on the telly then you boring ****. It’s not like your local and bred into it like it’s a religion.

It’s you’re and I have been a Newcastle fan long before and will be long after this forum!

Just because I left the region at 13 doesn’t mean I should give up. My son’s only been twice but still a fan.

Nowt I can do about being a boring ****, mind.
 
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I guess Arsenal and Liverpool fans had more faith than us.

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October fixtures are a bit kinder so could turn things around... Fingers crossed its been a bit **** so far hasn't it?
 
Disappointing end to the game yesterday, proper gutting! And while I agree the subs weren’t great (Miley for Tino, Willock for Joelinton imo - stuck with the midfield 5) we are just shy of par for the course so far this season - probably 2 less points than I’d have expected before a ball was kicked

0-0 Villa - disappointing result against 10 men but probably what I’d have hoped for away from home
2-3 Liverpool - no one expected a point especially down to 10 men
0-0 Leeds - the game I think we expected to win but didn’t - second home game for Leeds back in the big time was always going to be difficult but points dropped
1-0 Wolves - right result and deserved 3 points
2-1 Barcelona - decent performance and could have had more
0-0 Bournemouth - never get anything there so a decent clean sheet
4-1 Bradford - as expected
1-2 Arsenal - too raw to have any sensible thoughts on yet but arsenal Would have been the bookies favourite.

Maybe you look at Villa and think should have won that one but we had no strikers - and in the main we are almost exactly where I expect us to be so far bar the Leeds game. We have 6 new players and potentially 4/5 starters in Thiaw, Ramsey, Elanga, Wissa, Woltermade all trying to get used to it here.

If we’d had Wissa/Woltemade in those first few games we’d have a few more points on the board already Im sure.
 
This time 4 years ago we were bottom of the league with Ashley.

As things go, I think we're in a rather good position now. And Arsenal are good btw, and they hardly outplayed us.
they passed the ball around a lot and kept possession, a bit like what Barcelona did and won by the odd goal like Barcelona did

we are not going to play Barcelona, Arsenal Liverpool every week

I only wish Voltamade wore a short sleeve shirt or get a shirt were the arms fall off when pulled
his baggy shirt doesn't show how much he is being pulled back like again at Bournemouth
it seems like refs have a different thresholds on pulling shirts
 
they passed the ball around a lot and kept possession, a bit like what Barcelona did and won by the odd goal like Barcelona did

we are not going to play Barcelona, Arsenal Liverpool every week

I only wish Voltamade wore a short sleeve shirt or get a shirt were the arms fall off when pulled
his baggy shirt doesn't show how much he is being pulled back like again at Bournemouth
it seems like refs have a different thresholds on pulling shirts

We were better than Liverpool, even when we had 10 men, that was just bad luck. Arsenal were better than us overall, but we frustrated them well for most of the match and we're leading with 5 minutes to go and only lost at the death.

Barcelona were clearly higher quality than us, but again we frustrated them for long periods, and it took something special from Rashford to really shut us down.

It's going under the radar, but our defence is actually really good this season so far. We just need to dominate more.
 
Just watched the extended highlights of the game
It was a clear handball by the Arsenal player in the box from the shot by Elanga
the ref should have seen this and awarded a penalty as his view was unimpeded by others
he then should have let VAR have a look at it,
and as there is NO clear evidence that the ball has ricocheted off the Arsenal players leg
then the penalty should have stood
by not doing his job correctly and playing by the Laws of the Game he has allowed VAR to re-ref the game
This is down to the incompetence of the Referee

He was quick to point to the spot on an assumption that there was a foul by Pope
as there was no way he could have seen the incident from his angle
VAR then did it's job and showed the ref the angle he didn't have
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'Ball deemed to have deflected off Gabriel’s shin'published at 18:28 BST 28 September
18:28 BST 28 September

Newcastle 1-1 Arsenal

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Premier League Match Centre on X: "The referee’s call of no penalty was checked and confirmed by VAR – with the ball deemed to have deflected off Gabriel’s shin and onto his arm.

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what the **** was the Ref watching ????


Incident starts at 9.36 with a better angle on 9.47

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I only hope that when we start playing the teams we should be beating, we get the 3 points.

Leeds we went with a defensive set up that in my opinion invited unnecessary pressure and didn't allow our players to shine, we have some talented lads but right now we constrict them too much.

Howe learnt from the Spaniards after he got sacked at Bournemouth and he's returned a better coach, but he absolutely plants himself in the Pep school of management, that players have a job to do and that job should be done. Players come to Newcastle and stop having shots, they try to pass it into the back of the net. It's very easy to read and predictable.

I'd like to see some creative flair, because to be honest, we are ****ing boring to watch.