Tesla have led the way for years in electric cars now the competition is catching up. Most of that competition is made in China, anyone taking pleasure that tesla is losing out to Chinese made cars need to take a look at the bigger picture.
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Tesla have led the way for years in electric cars now the competition is catching up. Most of that competition is made in China, anyone taking pleasure that tesla is losing out to Chinese made cars need to take a look at the bigger picture.
I think that's a 'launch' with massive air quotes. I can't remember the details but I think it was something like 20 vehicles only in a tightly restricted area of Austin open to only carefully selected customers.
I've just read up on it, it launched on Sunday, but is only available to a limited number of 'Tesla Influencers' (whatever they are). It doesn't operate on a night, or in bad weather, it's limited to a thirty square mile area of South Austin (that Tesla have mapped in detail) and the passengers have manual controls that override the car in case of emergency.
I wouldn't trust it yet, it looks a little dodgy...
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The share price is valued on the promise of the future, not the current turnover/profit - its not a science. If this works and goes national, the company will sky rocket in value, so investors are banking on this. If it fails, the company is ****ed.
If taxis and delivery vehicles are automated within two decades, there's going to be a lot out of a job.
Not quite right yet. When that black SUV cut across it (15:00) it should have been flashing its lights, blowing its horn and shouting **** in a very loud voice.
Looks pretty good to me. I'd trust it over the majority of drivers on the road.
At 7.00 it indicates and starts to turn, then realises it's not yet at the right junction and pulls back and goes straight on, you can hear the bloke behind blow his horn. There's certain situations that you'd expect might cause issues, but being at the right junction isn't really one of them.
Tesla gets all the attention, but their not the first with self-driving taxis, there's lots of them already operating in the US, Waymo alone has 700 driverless taxis in full operation. They currently operate a fleet of Jaguar iPace's, but they've ordered a load of these Zeekr's from Sweden...
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Waymo (Google) are in San Francisco, LA, Phoenix and Austin, they've also partnered with Uber in Atlanta.
Cruise (GM) were in operating in California, but lost their license when someone got run over.
Zoox (Amazon) is operating in San Fransisco and Las Vegas. Their vehicles look like cable-cars on wheels...
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Spot on. So the share price holds up well because Musk makes a lot of promises about the future. The fact that he fails to deliver on the promised timetable in almost every case doesn't seem to bother the people who buy the shares very much. As long as there are easy marks, con artists will thrive.
Those who bought Tesla stock a decade ago have 27x their money. Amazon shares crashed from $100+ to lows of around $8 in 2000-2001. Despite all the bad news, Tesla is 25% off it's highs. I don't know if it is worth trying to make sense of it, investors invest banking on the future.
I've been running a Toyota Hybrid car since being in New Zealand, and so far have been reasonably impressed with it.
I'm on my third hybrid Yaris (Yaris-X this time) - I get on fine with mine, wife loves the -X model as the extra height helps with her back, personally I prefer the standard Yaris, I find it far smoother to drive.
Bentley have just announced their three new models (Bentayga, Continental GT and Flying Spur) will only be available in petrol versions and they've scrapped their plans to go all-electric, though they are still building one electric production line.
Porsche and VW/Audi have also recently announced that they're pulling back on plans to go all-electric, due to poor demand and are now developing new petrol models, alongside their EV options.
Porsche and VW/Audi have also recently announced that they're pulling back on plans to go all-electric, due to poor demand and are now developing new petrol models, alongside their EV options.
This is progress!!
Just wondering what is stopping most people going electric, is it the price? I have electric and got to say its the best car I have driven (smooth drive, I don't seem to get all the warning lights I had with previous cars, so much cheaper to run and 0 to 60 in 4.5 seconds). I did get a second hand though which saved me about 50 grand! The only drawback for me is the lack of fast chargers so if I am driving a round trip of more than 240 miles it becomes a bit of a logistical nightmare. However, that is rare as I tend to use the train for long journeys anyway. Its also strange getting used to such a quiet car and I tend to turn on the sport mode with a fake engine roar!
expensive electric cars can be great
but if you look at the budget electric cars, they are absolutely woeful, therein lays the problem
i think good hybrids is the way forward, electric motor inner city driving, ice for motorways and country roads etc
ice cars putting horrendous emissions out around schools and houses is just awful and does need to stop
The fact that they can’t tow 2 tonnes is a deal breaker for me.
I’ll consider one when we need to replace our 1000cc petrol runaround but then the hassle of charging comes into play. I park the current car at the other end of the street and don’t think the neighbours would be too happy with my leading a 100ft of cabling, cobbled together from a dubious variety of extension leads across everyone’s gardens.
I see. I maybe took the right choice in going for a 30k second hand (jaguar ipace) than spending the money on a budget version. You are right. If they could get a good reliable budget electric, it's a different story.