Did make me smile, I tried to process it into some sort of context seeing the flags, it;s like a tribal thing that you use to get in football. That same sort of mentality you get on match day. Go and watch Millwall play, chuck a few insults at the visitors, but once you get home, take the flag off, put your feet up and watch Spurs on the telly, while ordering Uber, deliveroo or whatever eats. Lol, ok not quite like that.
Well at least it's finally been said, Davey declines to 'rule out coalition with Labour'. It was part of my own thought process, there is no way Starmer or Davey are going to allow a populist party to get into government, and I think they would have enough power between the two of them to stop that. It then leaves the question of what would the Tories do, bloodbath. I'd go with Davey if he toned down his rhetoric on the EU, if he insists on going that path, then I couldn't vote for him. Anyway all this **** is way too early, Labour got another 3-4 years yet.
I see that Corbyn and Sultana have fallen out. Personally, as much as I wanted Corbyn to be PM, I think Sultana should go it alone. Trouble is they will split the progressive vote, so I think Davey and Starmer being open to a coalition is a good pragmatic move, because at the moment this country is caught up in a wave of hysteria that is fuelling Farage and his divisive politics. But like you say, 3-4 years is still a long time to go.
... and Starmer won't be going anywhere until then either - not least because they haven't got a viable alternative...
Sultana will get votes in about 3 constituencies and that is it, anyone who says otherwise is living in a fairytale. They didn't even announce the party and their egos began devouring one another, Sultana couldn't wait a week for an official announcement, had to run to socials to appear the party leader. Absolutely ridiculous anyone would even suggest they should lead a party, let alone a nation.
If we had a Proportional voting system a coalition would make perfect sense, but as we have a ridiculous old fashioned system designed to support two very old fashioned parties - we instead live in a world in which the party that wins a largest share of votes overwhelmingly dominates the Parliament. Labour and the Tories have had ample ample opportunities to change this, but selfishly never did - their supporters inventing reasons it shouldn't happen. Even some on here, doubted why it was needed. Now a bunch of ****ing scammers are ahead by 15 pts and people start talking about the validity of coalitions. That time has flown by, Reform UK have spoken about their disdain for FPTP, let's see if they uphold that when they actually win power.
The Lib Dems should have gone with Labour when Clegg decided to suck off Cameron instead, the pointless Charles Thrywitt suit prick. Their only relevance at the moment is giving middle class Tories who don’t currently want to vote Tory a box to tick that isn’t Labour or Reform. If it’s not as a minor part of a coalition they can’t ever be in government so Labour is his only choice given where the Tories (and Reform) are. Saying that, it would be nice if they could all stop pretending there’s an election next week and just get on with the boring stuff they’re meant to 3-4 years before the next election.
Corbyn and Sultana were never in the race, I don't know how old this Sultana is and I can't be arsed to look, but from where I'm sitting it's like Corbyn has got himself a yapping chihuahua that he's not taught the sit command to yet. She'll learn.
I don’t think it’s that unrealistic that when we eventually get to it there‘s not a party with a majority or close to it and that Lab/Lib combined have a similar number of seats to Con/Ref. Possibly even no majority with those combined and we end up with some Con/Ref/DUP/**** knows who coalition up against Lab/Lib/a reluctant SNP/Plaid with the Greens, Your Party, Our Party, Hamas Independents Formerly of Your Party and a few other loons refusing to be part of either. Sixth form politics lessons from nearly 20 years ago would’ve told me the flaws of PR, amongst various others are a) ‘extremist’ parties having a say (see Israel) and b) there being no strong majority party so getting anything done becomes difficult. The pros of PR are meant to be increased turnout and a feeling no vote is wasted. We’ve now managed to find a way to get the worst of both. Superb.
She’ll be on I’m A Celebrity before spending 20 years achieving nothing at Amnesty soon. She is worse than pointless.
I've never agreed with changing the leader for me it's just wrong. Yes there can be situations in life that requires a change, but if you vote in a lying snake and a party of thieves, that's what you get. I wouldn't change Starmer at the mo even if I could, just got to let the guy get on with the job, you judge him in 3-4 years time, when you can fairly evaluate objectives and achievements, you can't do that when the Keir has only been in the job 12+ months.
Any deals with the Munsters of the DUP and I'm ****ing out! All the right wing parties have gone too far right for me. Even Starmer is treading a fine line at times if he farts we could have a problem.
What would affect me come the next election in 2029 would be pension, my decisions will probably be based around that from a selfish perspective as I'll already be retired. It's obvious I wouldn't want to rejoin the EU to anyone that reads my ****, but I will always listen carefully to what's being proposed, as Starmer has done respectfully, it;s that last bit that's important to me. NHS of course a priority, and I will not vote for it to be privatised - if you are rich and can afford it or have adequate private insurance, then fair enough, I'm listening but I will never agree the poor having to pay for any part of it. We need to sort out these Electric, Gas and Water companies shafting people for profit. Migrants don't really effect me, and if they did, I'd just buy a flag and I'll be fine.