Match Day Thread Hull City vs Southampton at the MKM Stadium on Saturday 20th September at 3pm.

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Saintmagic said:
Yeah I said it at the time, by appointing Still you are hugely rolling the dice on this season, with a view/hope he comes good and turns into the PL manager all the talk and hype was predicting. You would hope the squad we assembled would carry him at times to get us over the line and promotion and he could be the manager who could be the X factor that helps you survive in the PL.

So far he looks clueless and the players are not settled enough to cover up his awful tactics. In hindsight we should’ve sold Fernandes and Dibling earlier to bring in the players and give them more time to gel
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It's why I so in support of Farke, if Leeds had decided to ditch him. Promotion this season isn't a given. There's no point looking ahead and thinking about whether an appointment might assist with keeping us in the PL, when we're not currently in the PL. The sole focus should have be promotion, hence someone with a strong promotion record made sense to me.
 
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st_brendy said:
It's why I so in support of Farke, if Leeds had decided to ditch him. Promotion this season isn't a given. There's no point looking ahead and thinking about whether an appointment might assist with keeping us in the PL, when we're not currently in the PL. The sole focus should have be promotion, hence someone with a strong promotion record made sense to me.
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It always looked like a gamble too far, it may still come good but we are playing catch up already.
 
st_brendy said:
It's why I so in support of Farke, if Leeds had decided to ditch him. Promotion this season isn't a given. There's no point looking ahead and thinking about whether an appointment might assist with keeping us in the PL, when we're not currently in the PL. The sole focus should have be promotion, hence someone with a strong promotion record made sense to me.
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Agree to an extent, but you have to keep that mentality going forward, eg if you appointed someone like Steve Cooper (who was my first choice) you sack him when you get promoted and try and get someone in who gives you a better chance of staying up, which unfortunately just wouldn’t happen.

SR have a clear model which is completely on developing players and (it appears) managers as well. So they are always looking at the future with the hope of it also working in the now, but they clearly are willing to roll the dice on the now especially
 
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Deserana said:
This hasn’t come out of nowhere. All the signs have pointed to us being beat by a competent performance, we just hadn’t come across one until now.
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We aren`t doing the basics right, and earning the right to play. Getting bullied by teams that are better organised than we are. And there are another dozen teams or so in the league who are just like Hull.
 
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This feels like the Sunderland away game under Martin. But with two (quite big) differences - we already had a decent haul of points on the board, and Sunderland were coming off the back of a decent season where they made the play-offs.
 
garysfc said:
Best squad in league & WS has no idea of how to set us up. Left field managerial appointment by SR. I appreciate we don’t really have the old pulling power but that choice is going to hurt us big time.
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Its not exactly the first left field managerial appointment by SR though is it? I think most if not all have been.

Russell Martin - Never heard of him
Will Still - Never heard of him
Nathan Jones - Only heard of him because my mate is a Luton fan
Ruben Selles - Never heard of him, but I know he was a coach with us
Ivan Juric - Never heard of him and he was at his last job for 2 months. Surely that must give you a fairly big clue
 
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How we are still playing Jack Stephens is beyond me. I remember complaining a lot about the new contract and a lot of people defended it saying that he would never be starting, the club isn’t thick and that it’s for his dressing room experience (which I always thought was weird as his experience is batterings and two 9-0 losses) but he has started and played the full 90 almost every game now.

But hey I’m sure he’s just about to become a reliable defender.
 
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Saintmagic said:
Agree to an extent, but you have to keep that mentality going forward, eg if you appointed someone like Steve Cooper (who was my first choice) you sack him when you get promoted and try and get someone in who gives you a better chance of staying up, which unfortunately just wouldn’t happen.

SR have a clear model which is completely on developing players and (it appears) managers as well. So they are always looking at the future with the hope of it also working in the now, but they clearly are willing to roll the dice on the now especially
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Not sure you can develop managers and a players at the same time. Experienced manager will help young players and old pros can help a young manager
 
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AshbySaint said:
Its not exactly the first left field managerial appointment by SR though is it? I think most if not all have been.

Russell Martin - Never heard of him
Will Still - Never heard of him
Nathan Jones - Only heard of him because my mate is a Luton fan
Ruben Selles - Never heard of him, but I know he was a coach with us
Ivan Juric - Never heard of him and he was at his last job for 2 months. Surely that must give you a fairly big clue
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I'd never heard of Adkins, Pochetino or Hassenhuttl.
 
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How THB got an England cap was at the time, and still is, a complete mystery.

Incredible how many passes we make whilst looking utterly dreadful at the back and up top. Downs, Azaz, Stephens and THB were utterly dreadful today.
 
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AberdeenSaint said:
We aren`t doing the basics right, and earning the right to play. Getting bullied by teams that are better organised than we are. And there are another dozen teams or so in the league who are just like Hull.
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The thing that is pissing me off a lot is watching us make 50 passes to end up back at the keeper yet other teams have no issue at all slicing us apart in 3 passes. Yet we never do that to anyone. And that’s been going back to Ralph ****ing Hassenhuttl.
 
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I don't know when the correct time is to pull the plug - this week, next week, next month, next year? But clearly, if results don't turn, it will have to happen.

Quite obviously, the sooner it happens, the more games a new manager would have. But that doesn't necessarily mean it has to happen imminently.

I suppose my position is who else is available? The options tomorrow will likely be different to the options, in say, two months.
 
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