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Off Topic Starmer/Reeves: The Dream Team!

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Blond Bombshell, Mar 26, 2025.

  1. Pure River Slut

    Pure River Slut Well-Known Member

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    Have you read the likely impact of their economic policiy?
     
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    Population growth is the biggest problem for the world, all these troubled countries, has the UN ever kicked them out, on Afghanistan should the west of left the taliban to commit genocide to none believers, same iraq.
     
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  3. Northumberland Rocks

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    Nobody ever said the EU was perfect but it was a million percent better than smashing our economy and kickstarting mass immigration like all the experts told us would happen if we voted Brexit.

    im no big remainer and probably share some of your legitimate concerns but I listened to experts before I voted and they said Brexit would be a clusterfck for our country. They were right and this government has to sort the mess out.
     
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    Look at the impact of the present government, as I said they are all as bad as each other, got to vote might not agree with 90% of Reform but not agree with 95% of others
     
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  5. Northumberland Rocks

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    By then we would have no nhs and public services decimated. Sunderland’s magnificent regeneration fckd.

    I travel a lot to the US we really really don’t want to risk the nhs when Farage’s US mates get a hold of it. Careful what you wish for.
     
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    We only smashed our economy because the clowns in charge did not want brexit, con gov and especially the top civil servants
     
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    The NHS is f**ked because of the luddite unions will not accept change,
     
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  8. Northumberland Rocks

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    Sadly people like you won’t open your eyes. We turned our back on 500million customers to stop immigration. The experts said, fckd economy and then record immigration. They have been proved right and you wrong and now it’s the Labour governments fault.

    it’s laughable but you believe people who have proven to lie and fool you. Sadly I think
    The only way people like you will change their opinion is Farage gets power and we loose all our much needed public services.
     
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  9. Northumberland Rocks

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    I agree to a point the doctors are not behaving fairly given their very generous pay rise last year.

    The nhs needs more money and a change in working practices which this government is implementing
     
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    I’m calling you a fascist marra because a fascist in my eyes is a political bully,it’s my way or no way with no respect or understanding for different point of view, you say Starmer targeted Rich pensioners, that’s only after a massive party revolt!!!
    In respect of me jumping on bandwagons you’re way off
     
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  11. Pure River Slut

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    Most of the immigrants are against them ffs how little do you know? Understand before you gob off is my advice
     
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  12. Pure River Slut

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    So you’re comfortable with your money and services going and billionaires increasing their wealth?
     
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  13. Northumberland Rocks

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    whatever I say won’t change your mind but I choose to listen to experts and certainly when it comes to Brexit they have been right and Farage and his billionaire non dom backers completely wrong.

    Given the clusterfk Brexit has made of our country I can only assume the daft or gullible would follow these people, even more so if you are working class as you are voting against your better interests.

    I fully get the immigration argument and possibly share some of your views however it needs to be addressed but not by racism and hatred and not by people who are the major cause of it in the first place.
     
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    Given the absolute mess the Tories made in overseeing record immigration and the use of hotels to house them for them now to encourage their councils to take the present government to court is hypocrisy of the highest highest order. They should be laughed out of any power they still have.

    That said siding with Reform on this matter (to steal a phrase) demonstrates the Tories and reform are cheeks of the same arse. Working class people need to wake up before it’s too late and we loose our NHS to Nige’s US mates.
     
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    I think you will find that it was Blair, during our membership of the European Union, who threw open our borders and welcomed the Romanians et all on their accession to the Union.
     
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  16. Northumberland Rocks

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    but but but Blair :)

    Blair left government 18 years ago man but if you are going to try to quote history..,The economy was booming and we certainly didn’t see anywhere near the 400,000+ a year the Tories oversaw on their watch.

    Brexit fckd our economy and gave us record immigration. If you voted for it you need to own it.
     
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    Totally agree with you mate.
    That was the start of people with a brain wanting out
     
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  18. WorkyTicketFTM

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    With any luck. Far too many people have an expert opinion on American healthcare based on what they’ve read on a Facebook post. Their healthcare system is leagues ahead of ours. And because of their lower income tax rates and insurance policies it just wouldn’t work here without massive changes to those things, unfortunately. That won’t happen:
     
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    This debate epitomises what is wrong with politics both in the UK and globally. Polarisation has destroyed us and unless people realise that, we are doomed.
    Neither reform or any of the left wing parties care about working people in this country. They just want to push their ideologies, most of which are based on self indulgent notions of being right or morally superior.
    What we need is a strong centrist party that will make people on both sides face the truths that they are unwilling to accept.
     
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  20. rooch 3

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    Have you ever considered it could be you that’s wrong?
    No probably not.
     
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