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A guy in Kent got cleared yesterday for hitting a man and leaving him with brain damage, I hasten to add the other man started the trouble so I had a feeling he would get off. Got done with some lessor charge but could still face prison.

This is where it gets difficult, we as kids and all our kids, cousins etc have been made to learn how to box, some went on to be very decent , but initially it was so you knew how to look after yourself in certain situations. 3 weeks ago I get a call at 1.30 am, from my lad, all of a panic, hes at home im i Ireland 'dad this lad as been going at me all night, kept standing in my way when I was going to the bar, asked me who the **** i thought i was, didnt like me or my mates and he was going to do us later, then we lost him, a few hours later, my mates go their way, I finish my drink and go out the other door to get a taxi, he's standing there with 4 of his mates, they tell him he's being a **** but he won't listen, they leave him, so its just us 2, he says come on me and you, I try and talk it down, he's having non of it, and says come on if you don't
hit me ill hit you, so I knocked him out, I tried to pick him up when he came round but he was still being a **** so I left him,I'm just worried I'll get in trouble now with the police' calmed him down and told him it will get sorted. Nothing went wrong but could have, a very fine line. Turns out in his case he'd have been OK, as the following week the bouncer said to him, How's your hand, what do you mean, how's yours hand, I saw what went on and he ****ing deserved it, good right hook by the way, you've obviously done a bit
 
This is where it gets difficult, we as kids and all our kids, cousins etc have been made to learn how to box, some went on to be very decent , but initially it was so you knew how to look after yourself in certain situations. 3 weeks ago I get a call at 1.30 am, from my lad, all of a panic, hes at home im i Ireland 'dad this lad as been going at me all night, kept standing in my way when I was going to the bar, asked me who the **** i thought i was, didnt like me or my mates and he was going to do us later, then we lost him, a few hours later, my mates go their way, I finish my drink and go out the other door to get a taxi, he's standing there with 4 of his mates, they tell him he's being a **** but he won't listen, they leave him, so its just us 2, he says come on me and you, I try and talk it down, he's having non of it, and says come on if you don't
hit me ill hit you, so I knocked him out, I tried to pick him up when he came round but he was still being a **** so I left him,I'm just worried I'll get in trouble now with the police' calmed him down and told him it will get sorted. Nothing went wrong but could have, a very fine line. Turns out in his case he'd have been OK, as the following week the bouncer said to him, How's your hand, what do you mean, how's yours hand, I saw what went on and he ****ing deserved it, good right hook by the way, you've obviously done a bit

Yeah life is all about fine lines and I often think how fate could have been so different. We see people get locked up for ****, purely because they got unlucky. I got lucky over various things when younger, it wasn't that I handled situations any better, it was all down to luck, events falling in your favour.

It was good your lad could look after himself, they picked a fight with the wrong person. Just like that lad in Kent, he lobbed something while drunk at a passing vehicle, unlucky for him he didn't bank on the guy in the car being able to handle himself and turning the nuisance into a cabbage.

Glad your lad is ok mate and that events thankfully went his way, more through being able to handle himself and training well for future unforseens.
 
Yeah life is all about fine lines and I often think how fate could have been so different. We see people get locked up for ****, purely because they got unlucky. I got lucky over various things when younger, it wasn't that I handled situations any better, it was all down to luck, events falling in your favour.

It was good your lad could look after himself, they picked a fight with the wrong person. Just like that lad in Kent, he lobbed something while drunk at a passing vehicle, unlucky for him he didn't bank on the guy in the car being able to handle himself and turning the nuisance into a cabbage.

Glad your lad is ok mate and that events thankfully went his way, more through being able to handle himself and training well for future unforseens.

Thing is mate he's a big softee at heart, would certainly do a good deed over bad, but got pushed and pushed until he knew it was him or me, so made the right choice. Tbf to him the **** would have only stood in my way the second time when I was his age and it would have gone off, he has his mom's temperament
 
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I agree that Starmer is also a bellend but wanted to set the balance right, so it's Kemi.
She’s an idiot, incompetent and well out of her depth. Probably a good thing by the Tories to put someone like her in charge for now until they get some goodwill back after the previous governments. Then after the next election they need to find a good candidate to bring them back into contention,again.
 
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Another loophole closed ... fair play to this Government...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cr5r1zpl39jo

The cabinet office have clarified that apart from fraud and error, it was about raising awareness to the rules and there had been GENUINE mistakes.

It also means they looked at a random sample as permitted by an act passed in 2017, to scrutinise 200,000 people travel itinerary, so if you are one of the 200k that claim child benefit and are perfectly entitled, which over 197,000 people were entitled to, your data will have been snooped at even if you had broken no laws.

This is why people don't claim benefits they are entitled, especially the elderly when it comes to winter fuel payments / low household income claims, because they don't want the hassle and worry of doing something wrong, including having their private affairs looked into.

Oh well at least they saved a projected £350M over five years, to spend on another rocket(s) to give someone in a war zone.
 
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But it all evades my question, who decides?

So what about the responsibility in here, as I asked, because it will not just fall to the person who said something, yet if I go round shutting stuff down, people will **** off, if I shut Sucky down, I'm pretty certain we would lose a certain amount of traffic. It's like you want to punish for when people do wrong, but are not accepting why it's gone wrong, other than blame the individual.

Example: I became very conscious back in 2023 and onwards, we have to be very careful what is said around football tragedies, because it can now lead to prosecution, now I've no problem with that, but who decides what can and can't be discussed about it, who decides whose opinion is valid and shouldn't be a criminal offence.

There is a reason I've never been on any of my own club forums, because I use to get shut down with strict rules. The rules weren't wrong technically, but it stifled debate as far as I was concerned. If I applied the rules that were applied to me this forum would vanish in no time.

It's like pass the buck Luv, no disrepect mate, but actually members do need to take ownership as a whole, and not just leave it to the owners and moderators of social media. Because the people you may enjoy engaging with, could be the same people potentially breaking the law, even if you are not.

Sometimes I do feel like the buck is being passed to me at times, when people don't speak up, there has been occasions when certain people do, I can often rely on Libby to step in at some point, without the look at me effect or win effect.

So tell me Luv, when do I ban Sucky just as a pure example, who on here is going to have the balls to say enough mate and actually mean it or we all going to bury our head in the sand, until the next time. Not saying Sucky has done anything wrong, he's just an example, but some might argue, you know what, actually he's gone too far.

Some people prod people that cause racist outbursts, the trigger effect for fun, are they as much the problem as those that are committing the offence.

See my point here bro, have a couple of beers and come back to me lol? :cheesy:
So what you're sayin is I'm crucial to not 606s health

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100 people arrested ahead of the Notting Hill Carnival, police say they've arrested those that post the greatest risk to safety.

They've seized 11 firearms! 11 ffs.

266 people banned from attending the event.

It comes after two people died in separate incidents after being attacked at last years carnival.
 
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100 people arrested ahead of the Notting Hill Carnival, police say they've arrested those that post the greatest risk to safety.

They've seized 11 firearms! 11 ffs.

266 people banned from attending the event.

It comes after two people died in separate incidents after being attacked at last years carnival.

Good to see a preemptive strike - presumably targeting gangs ... for me there should be s complete cordon and walk-through metal detectors at every entry point ... ****ers ain't so brave without their blades... Real shame a few scrotes put off many people from attending what should be a wonderful, upbeat, celebratory event...
 
Good to see a preemptive strike - presumably targeting gangs ... for me there should be s complete cordon and walk-through metal detectors at every entry point ... ****ers ain't so brave without their blades... Real shame a few scrotes put off many people from attending what should be a wonderful, upbeat, celebratory event...
youve never been have you?

That would never work bro over 2m people being put into queues and walking through metal detectors is just unworkable.
 
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youve never been have you?

That would never work bro over 2m people being put into queues and walking through metal detectors is just unworkable.

I've never been but my eldest daughter has ... few years ago now .... was on edge until she got home ... and some innocent lass got killed last year... so however impractical it seems, I'd still like to see whatever it takes to catch anybody trying to attend with a blade ...
 
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I've never been but my eldest daughter has ... few years ago now .... was on edge until she got home ... and some innocent lass got killed last year... so however impractical it seems, I'd still like to see whatever it takes to catch anybody trying to attend with a blade ...
Part and parcel of living in a big city.
 
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Stabbings, murders and rapes. Police have even set up a zone at this years event for women who have been sexually assaulted.

People are discussing this like it should still be going ahead. It’s clearly not safe for the public and it should be banned.
 
Stabbings, murders and rapes. Police have even set up a zone at this years event for women who have been sexually assaulted.

People are discussing this like it should still be going ahead. It’s clearly not safe for the public and it should be banned.
If they officially banned it, it would just go ahead anyways but have worse trouble and more crime and be less safe.

You gotta know where to go in carnival to be safe tbh and there's no guides or maps for that kinda info
 
Stabbings, murders and rapes. Police have even set up a zone at this years event for women who have been sexually assaulted.

People are discussing this like it should still be going ahead. It’s clearly not safe for the public and it should be banned.

I was reading where that 32 year old mum got butchered to death in front of her 3 year old daughter, and the police didn't have enough resources to handle the event at the time. They've also carried out raids prior to this years event and recovered 11 firearms, if this was a football match it would have been banned from going ahead as a public order concern - it's going to be even worse this year/weekend with resources tied up at migrant hotels. The whole thing is becoming a ****ing joke a very bad one.
 
If they officially banned it, it would just go ahead anyways but have worse trouble and more crime and be less safe.

You gotta know where to go in carnival to be safe tbh and there's no guides or maps for that kinda info
Not sure about that. I still believe most people are law abiding and wouldn’t turn up.

If would soon die off in a year or two when the folk that do turn up just realise it’s **** and they’ve got a far bigger chance of being a victim of crime.