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How are Labour doing after their first 12 months


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On inheritance tax, they either need to apply it to everybody the same, or scrap it for everybody.

I don't see why farmers should be exempt, or get a favourable deal.

Do nurses, doctors, teachers etc ?

They all do equally as important jobs for society.

No, they don't.
 
I hate to tell you this mate, you come across as middle class snot, who is too concerned with materialistic values and where you are on that imaginary ladder to boast, you need to take a back seat bro and relax, chill with that glass of wine, the world will still revolve without everyone of us. You can't take any of what you've got with you, and in a hundred years, no one will even remember anyone of us ever existed.

My maternal grandfather was a 'setter' in a brick factory in Lancashire - maternal grandmother brought up 7 kids...

Paternal grandfather was a Dunlop salesman - paternal grandmother worked for British Gas in an admin role

Father an engineer (learnt his trade in the RAF just after the war ended - conscript) - mother a nurse ... prior to taking on an off-licence when I was 3 - meant I grew up in the Saffron Lane area of Leicester ... let's just say, not really 'suburbia' <laugh>

Passed the 11 plus which got me to a grammar school ... then first of our wider family to go to a University... left Leicester for a job opportunity in Buckinghamshire when I was 26... been 'darn sarf' ever since ...

Happy to be a snot... but a middle class one would be a bit of a stretch! :)
 
Again, there should be stats on how much meat
(land, sea) + veg + fruit the UK produces each year.
And from that you can get a % measure of how it
satisfies the per capita nutritional needs.

This touches on the point I was making about the agricultural yield of the land. Vast swathes of it are simply low grade grazing land which offer very little in the way of food production.

Farmers keep it because a lot of the subsidies they are paid come in the form of how much acerage they own.

There are far more efficient ways of farming we could adopt that both produce more and provide more for the biodiversity of the country
 
Possibly.

If not, tis a simple matter to produce the stats
(property ownership records, birth registry etc) .


"I'll be honest I don't like what I see as an attack on British farmers, because the trouble with that every
farmer gets dragged into it. We should be a self sufficient island, and supporting our farmers, but obviously
I'm not including the rich in that or celebrities or just pure land grabbers."

Again, there should be stats on how much meat
(land, sea) + veg + fruit the UK produces each year.
And from that you can get a % measure of how it
satisfies the per capita nutritional needs.

There are Government stats re crop ratios, acreage etc ...
 
So a society without healthcare or education isn’t as important ?

If I don't get food to eat, I die *** . Simple as.
What societies I construct or exist in becomes moot,


*** Apply the process similarly for kindred professional domains.
 
There are Government stats re crop ratios, acreage etc ...

We have a daily nutritional reqt (as I stated) .
Assume it comes solely from naturally grown/reared resources.

From the nutritional "bill of materials" , what is the per capita
land/sea area :

1. required to meet the bill
2. currently available to the UK


These are the "numbers don't lie" stats that the state
should be producing, and making easily accessible.
 
If I don't get food to eat, I die *** . Simple as.
What societies I construct or exist in becomes moot,


*** Apply the process similarly for kindred professional domains.

We import almost 50% of our food.

For the other 50% if the farmers get sick and there are no doctors, then they don't work and we rely on 100% imports.

ergo.. both jobs are equally as important.
 
My maternal grandfather was a 'setter' in a brick factory in Lancashire - maternal grandmother brought up 7 kids...

Paternal grandfather was a Dunlop salesman - paternal grandmother worked for British Gas in an admin role

Father an engineer (learnt his trade in the RAF just after the war ended - conscript) - mother a nurse ... prior to taking on an off-licence when I was 3 - meant I grew up in the Saffron Lane area of Leicester ... let's just say, not really 'suburbia' <laugh>

Passed the 11 plus which got me to a grammar school ... then first of our wider family to go to a University... left Leicester for a job opportunity in Buckinghamshire when I was 26... been 'darn sarf' ever since ...

Happy to be a snot... but a middle class one would be a bit of a stretch! :)

ffs. <laugh>

Same as grammar school, I'm not against them nor for them, I just think something will fit everybody with choice. I have family members that went to grammar and those that didn't, they are equally well off' with their own gaffs and have good jobs, everyone finds their place in life, you may go different paths but I feel sometimes people are using 'grammar' as some sort of class ladder.

I left school at 15 and went straight into work, I have my own car and my own house, that's the necessities filled, it comes down to one simple thing that school does not really teach you, work ethic. Keep your head down and get on with it, fate will reward you in the end. It don't matter how wealthy you are or what luxuries you wear, I judge the ethics of a person, not what they wear.
 
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What's the actual likelihood of this happening?
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He flip flops all the time to keep everyone happy and the threat of a revolt to remove him as the main man.

He’s like the UK, Benny The Butcher.
 
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So we depend on the farmers of other nations.

Who are firstly most important in their own nations,
and also now ours, than < insert here > .

We also depend on the teachers to educate the people who then go to medical school to learn to become doctors, who in turn look after the farmers who provide (50%) of our food.
 
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He flip flops all the time to keep everyone happy and the threat of a revolt to remove him as the main man.

He’s like the UK, Benny The Butcher.

I’m all for this. If he starts bombing, starving and then culling the gammon, the racists and the Tommy Robinson/ Katie Hopkins types

I’d gladly carry a Keir the Killer avatar too.
 
I see my shoot the boats idea is gaining traction

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I’m up for a helicopter gunship sinking this small boat.

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I’m up for a helicopter gunship sinking this small boat.

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You and Fosse won't be happy until Hamas arrive in the UK and declare jihad upon us.

Hopefully none of your family get blown to peices at a concert when that happens
 
You and Fosse won't be happy until Hamas arrive in the UK and declare jihad upon us.

Hopefully none of your family get blown to peices at a concert when that happens

I think they’re all heading to London and Brum mate so I’ll be fine

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