Transfer Embargo

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It doesn’t really matter if a player kicked up a stink or not.

My point is that it’s a fact that the money wasn’t available to pay them on the normal day - everything else about whether it’s acceptable to be only 2 days late with warning is opinion.
They didn’t kick up they stopped kicking at all and downed tools
 
There are loads of well run clubs who are managing poor or intermittent cash flow every week of the year and have scraped by for years . They probably don’t gamble at all and will stay where they are or decline .
Accountants usually drive your business down if in total control as it’s all about costs for them . Somehow you have got to find a way to pour more in - the Brentford / Brighton models maybe .
 
"Disastrous running". Drama queen. Not that I'm happy with the prospect of a fee restriction, even for just one window. Suggesting it's 'disastrous', that we are a basket case along the lines of Wednesday or Reading (previously) is ridiculous.
He hasn't repeated the established facts, he's been ridiculously selective in the facts he's used, completely omitting to offer any background, context, etc (as per my earlier post). He's taken jumping the gun to a whole new level and badly misrepresented the reality.
Hopefully come next week he looks pretty stupid, if not even in legal bother himself.
There's no wonder you can't reason with me. It's almost like you want us to fail and to be a basket case. I don't get you at all. Yes I'm 'angry', I care about my club. It seems you and a few others revel in thoughts of our demise and take joy in steering the narrative that way; so odd.

Im sorry but well run clubs don’t get transfer restrictions. It’s that simple.
 
Im sorry but well run clubs don’t get transfer restrictions. It’s that simple.
So, if it proves to be a genuine misunderstanding, with both Villa and City seeing it as such, are you saying that is still enough to justify that Acun is being hung, drawn & quartered as he is by some at the moment (be that 'fans' or journalists)? I don't.
He's made mistakes during his tenure, but surely he's built up enough in the emotional bank account over his tenure for people to see past a genuine mis-understanding? Or at least for people to hang fire until more is known.
 
So, if it proves to be a genuine misunderstanding, with both Villa and City seeing it as such, are you saying that is still enough to justify that Acun is being hung, drawn & quartered as he is by some at the moment (be that 'fans' or journalists)? I don't.
He's made mistakes during his tenure, but surely he's built up enough in the emotional bank account over his tenure for people to see past a genuine mis-understanding? Or at least for people to hang fire until more is known.

No. For various reasons. Putting is in this position will damage reputation and even if lifted make negotiations with players harder.

Investing as much as he has into the team to see virtually no improvement on the field to what was here when he took over.

FWIW the EFL don’t normally step in over one late payment. There will be an underlying reason with this Barry payment being the straw that broke the camels back. Even if it is a misunderstanding putting us in this position or near enough is tantamount to poor management.
 
No. For various reasons. Putting is in this position will damage reputation and even if lifted make negotiations with players harder.

Investing as much as he has into the team to see virtually no improvement on the field to what was here when he took over.

FWIW the EFL don’t normally step in over one late payment. There will be an underlying reason with this Barry payment being the straw that broke the camels back. Even if it is a misunderstanding putting us in this position or near enough is tantamount to poor management.

Yawn.
 
So, if it proves to be a genuine misunderstanding, with both Villa and City seeing it as such, are you saying that is still enough to justify that Acun is being hung, drawn & quartered as he is by some at the moment (be that 'fans' or journalists)? I don't.
He's made mistakes during his tenure, but surely he's built up enough in the emotional bank account over his tenure for people to see past a genuine mis-understanding? Or at least for people to hang fire until more is known.

For me personally though this is the final straw.

Poor decisions when it comes to multiple managers (hiring and firing), wasting lots of money on poor transfers, just missing relegation after finishing 7th the year before, transfer embargoes, late wages. Tan going under a cloud, bad judgment on Emre and not great batting it away.

It all adds up to mistrust in whether he’s able to run a club in the English league and the worst thing is - it seems to be slowly getting worse and we aren’t learning from mistakes.

It’s not so much hung drawn and quartered for me as much as I can no longer have faith we are being run sensibly for the future. Time to go.
 
For me personally though this is the final straw.

Poor decisions when it comes to multiple managers (hiring and firing), wasting lots of money on poor transfers, just missing relegation after finishing 7th the year before, transfer embargoes, late wages. Tan going under a cloud, bad judgment on Emre and not great batting it away.

It all adds up to mistrust in whether he’s able to run a club in the English league and the worst thing is - it seems to be slowly getting worse and we aren’t learning from mistakes.

It’s not so much hung drawn and quartered for me as much as I can no longer have faith we are being run sensibly for the future. Time to go.
Not learning is he
 
For me personally though this is the final straw.

Poor decisions when it comes to multiple managers (hiring and firing), wasting lots of money on poor transfers, just missing relegation after finishing 7th the year before, transfer embargoes, late wages. Tan going under a cloud, bad judgment on Emre and not great batting it away.

It all adds up to mistrust in whether he’s able to run a club in the English league and the worst thing is - it seems to be slowly getting worse and we aren’t learning from mistakes.

It’s not so much hung drawn and quartered for me as much as I can no longer have faith we are being run sensibly for the future. Time to go.

Fair enough.
Seems a well considered, well explained stance. Fwiw, one I can agree with in parts but not overall. For example, I think 'we' (read the owner and club) are finally learning from mistakes. Like a lot of others, I was feeling reasonably positive (without getting too carried away) after last Monday's press conference and then the Q&A. But then bang, this unfortunate issue rears it's head. We can only hope it does end up being a storm in a tea cup.
 
There is an article in the Athletic at the moment which says much of what we know already but I thought this snippet in the article was interesting:

"The EFL have been in regular contact with Hull in the summer weeks, requesting funding guarantees to prevent the club from being placed under a business plan"

So from that its clear that at the time of the press conference the club knew about that but no mention was made of it with Acun insisting that everything was fine.
 
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For me personally though this is the final straw.

Poor decisions when it comes to multiple managers (hiring and firing), wasting lots of money on poor transfers, just missing relegation after finishing 7th the year before, transfer embargoes, late wages. Tan going under a cloud, bad judgment on Emre and not great batting it away.

It all adds up to mistrust in whether he’s able to run a club in the English league and the worst thing is - it seems to be slowly getting worse and we aren’t learning from mistakes.

It’s not so much hung drawn and quartered for me as much as I can no longer have faith we are being run sensibly for the future. Time to go.
What world are you living, cos I look around the world and this is just like much/most of the world?. We live in crazy times were the rich boys use everything as a toy,including politics. Yet ordinary people vote them in and think wealth is a sign of Intelligence.
 
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In some ways an embargo might do us some good . At least we wouldn't continue wasting millions on players who cannot perform in the championship.

And might provide some reflection time for our owner. God knows how many millions we have wasted under his ownership.
 
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What world are you living, cos I look around the world and this is just like much/most of the world?. We live in crazy times were the rich boys use everything as a toy,including politics. Yet ordinary people vote them in and think wealth is a sign of Intelligence.

Yet we are one of only two clubs in the division with a transfer restriction?

As it stands we are more questionably run than most.
 
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