Match Day Thread Premier League, Cups & Euro Watch

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Again - sadly that is the basis of all sports
You could argue that Saints have been humbled all season
Football is business

if the club from NZ take their money back and invest it it MAY do some good

not saying it will but has the capacity too

the world cups in the early stages were bobbins too (as in the 1930’s)

but look what happened…

As I said above - in sport your drive has to be the best their is - World is the only way you can probably prove this

not these silly American World Series jobs
I mean best in the World

I hope it is successful and I hope we represent in it at some point
our 2 representatives were the 3rd and 4th best teams in this country so how could they be considered best in world
 
You could literally attach that argument to the Prem (not saying I do but you could easily) and the CL
Nonsense counter argument to me that one - sorry

you compete to be the best
In every sport - end of
And from what I have gleaned in your case - you wish to be entertained
Only because you refuse to accept the validity of it.
There's enough football already to sate anybody's needs. PL, CL, EL, FAC, LC, WC, Euros and their regional equivalents.
Other competitions for less prestigious clubs, women's football, grass-roots at all levels.
Nobody needs any more. All of these recently invented competitions are simply money-making exercises.
One the one hand we have endless complaints about players being burned out halfway through the season, and yet we're supposed to support the ever increasing burden on them, and you don't see the connection between the two?
They'll all be back for pre-season in a few weeks.
They're athletes, not machines.
 
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Again - sadly that is the basis of all sports
You could argue that Saints have been humbled all season
Football is business

if the club from NZ take their money back and invest it it MAY do some good

not saying it will but has the capacity too

the world cups in the early stages were bobbins too (as in the 1930’s)

but look what happened…

As I said above - in sport your drive has to be the best their is - World is the only way you can probably prove this

not these silly American World Series jobs
I mean best in the World

I hope it is successful and I hope we represent in it at some point
Well, if you're involved in sport, any sport, everyone gets humbled at some point. That wasn't the crux of my argument though.

I just don't see this as a meaningful competition in any way. I was pleased when we won the previous version because I do think that once you're in contention then you should try and win it. I think we probably agree on that but even though we won, I still regard it as a sideshow trophy.

It's always interesting reading other people's views, yours especially because I never know what you'll say next. <laugh> At least you engage and address the argument without taking other views as a personal affront. When you say you hold back sometimes, don't. I really enjoy reading your take on issues.
 
Well, if you're involved in sport, any sport, everyone gets humbled at some point. That wasn't the crux of my argument though.

I just don't see this as a meaningful competition in any way. I was pleased when we won the previous version because I do think that once you're in contention then you should try and win it. I think we probably agree on that but even though we won, I still regard it as a sideshow trophy.

It's always interesting reading other people's views, yours especially because I never know what you'll say next. <laugh> At least you engage and address the argument without taking other views as a personal affront.
In South America the old version was really highly regarded unlike here .
 
Again - sadly that is the basis of all sports
You could argue that Saints have been humbled all season
Football is business

if the club from NZ take their money back and invest it it MAY do some good

not saying it will but has the capacity too

the world cups in the early stages were bobbins too (as in the 1930’s)

but look what happened…

As I said above - in sport your drive has to be the best their is - World is the only way you can probably prove this

not these silly American World Series jobs
I mean best in the World

I hope it is successful and I hope we represent in it at some point
That NZ team has already won the equivalent of the CL in Oceana multiple times. Coming home from the World Club Cup with a ton of money is only going to cement their dominance isn't it. So good for them, not so much for their competition.
 
In South America the old version was really highly regarded unlike here .
True. I don't know whether SA countries are much of a muchness or if they have a lot of players from other parts of the world in their teams and leagues. They tend to be more passionate overall and I sort of put that down to them being more homogenous as an entity.

I think, for some of us, our passion for the national team started waning at the same rate as the league became filled with players from outside of England. The national team no longer had/has the very best players from the league in it because the very best players in the league were/are foreign born.
 
That NZ team has already won the equivalent of the CL in Oceana multiple times. Coming home from the World Club Cup with a ton of money is only going to cement their dominance isn't it. So good for them, not so much for their competition.
So many to respond to in so little time <laugh>

will start here as least complex - the other might have to wait till I finish coaching lol <laugh>

yeah I agree with that
And this is going to open up more on this topic
But maybe the problem is that money going to the club
Maybe a chunk to the club and a chunk to the development of football from that country

maybe even chunks to the clubs and an even split across the grassroots of every group represented?

do they are talking about 100m pot in this one
So 5million for each grassroots area - still leaving 70mil prize money

loads of ways you could do that sort of thing but then transparency becomes important

<cheers>
 
Only because you refuse to accept the validity of it.
There's enough football already to sate anybody's needs. PL, CL, EL, FAC, LC, WC, Euros and their regional equivalents.
Other competitions for less prestigious clubs, women's football, grass-roots at all levels.
Nobody needs any more. All of these recently invented competitions are simply money-making exercises.
One the one hand we have endless complaints about players being burned out halfway through the season, and yet we're supposed to support the ever increasing burden on them, and you don't see the connection between the two?
They'll all be back for pre-season in a few weeks.
They're athletes, not machines.
You say I refuse to accept the validity because you have your view on its validity
We are diametrically opposed on this one - I respect your view, but my opinion is, that you could say that about all competitions
Why not remove the the clubs involved from the league and FA Cup for that season to allow them to participate in CWC ?

I would much rather watch a CWC than the league cup and FA Cup as both are predominantly the same

utd whisked their squad to another continent to make money which tells you a lot

again this goes into a different discussion

I believe the CWC has potential and I believe a club should be aspiring to win it
Just the way I am built

but I have no issues with the ESL either
I think it’s a natural progression to what we have

I believe there are ways to make it work

not saying this one is perfect - and haven’t even looked at the politics like I did with other WCs

but I believe the comp has potential and should be something to enjoy

just my opinion
 
Only because you refuse to accept the validity of it.
There's enough football already to sate anybody's needs. PL, CL, EL, FAC, LC, WC, Euros and their regional equivalents.
Other competitions for less prestigious clubs, women's football, grass-roots at all levels.
Nobody needs any more. All of these recently invented competitions are simply money-making exercises.
One the one hand we have endless complaints about players being burned out halfway through the season, and yet we're supposed to support the ever increasing burden on them, and you don't see the connection between the two?
They'll all be back for pre-season in a few weeks.
They're athletes, not machines.


FFS

(It's so rare you that make an error, I had to highlight it)
 
Well, if you're involved in sport, any sport, everyone gets humbled at some point. That wasn't the crux of my argument though.

I just don't see this as a meaningful competition in any way. I was pleased when we won the previous version because I do think that once you're in contention then you should try and win it. I think we probably agree on that but even though we won, I still regard it as a sideshow trophy.

It's always interesting reading other people's views, yours especially because I never know what you'll say next. <laugh> At least you engage and address the argument without taking other views as a personal affront. When you say you hold back sometimes, don't. I really enjoy reading your take on issues.
You might be the only one who enjoys reading my tripe lmao <laugh>
Think a fair few figure I am off my face lmao

I love reading all the other views tbh
Love the board and everyone in it
Apart from 3 posters who I think are just full of ****

and they reside on other boards lmao <laugh><laugh><laugh>:angry:
 
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You say I refuse to accept the validity because you have your view on its validity
We are diametrically opposed on this one - I respect your view, but my opinion is, that you could say that about all competitions
Why not remove the the clubs involved from the league and FA Cup for that season to allow them to participate in CWC ?

I would much rather watch a CWC than the league cup and FA Cup as both are predominantly the same

utd whisked their squad to another continent to make money which tells you a lot

again this goes into a different discussion

I believe the CWC has potential and I believe a club should be aspiring to win it
Just the way I am built

but I have no issues with the ESL either
I think it’s a natural progression to what we have

I believe there are ways to make it work

not saying this one is perfect - and haven’t even looked at the politics like I did with other WCs

but I believe the comp has potential and should be something to enjoy

just my opinion
You still haven't addressed the point I was making.
It's too many games.

Not for people watching perhaps - for the players.
I don't care how entertaining it is, or could be - I do care about players running out of steam by February.
You're gutted we're not in it, but I'm chuffed. Sadly, I'm assuming we will be in the future.
Pointless internationals against inferior opposition, Nations League, expanded CL and EL, European Conference, now this - an inexorable increase in competitions throughout recent years.
At what point do you think it's fair to say enough is enough?
 
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