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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

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  1. Stroller

    Stroller Well-Known Member

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    It's a shame they don't allow anti-votes. Israel would've wound up with minus points.
     
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    Given the contestant was one of the few survivors of the Nova festival attack and hid under the corpses of her mates for eight hours she’d have probably gotten over not doing as well in a singing competition.
     
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    It must have been tough for her to get through the selection process.

    What do you make of this, from an Israeli war hero?

    Israeli MP Yair Golan hits out at own country for ‘killing babies as a hobby’ | The Independent

    Even Keir Starmer and David Lammy are now criticising Israel's actions. Do you still defend them?
     
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    Why and how?

    Killing children is not self-defense.
     
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    Why? Because it’s a just war against a far from just opposition.

    How? Not very actively but the counter-protests are quite dull once you’ve been to a couple.


    You?
     
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    Your attiitude to this disgusts me.

    Most Israelis deplore Netanyahu's war crimes, but you see fit to glory in them from your safe English home.
     
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    I’m not glorying in anything. Netanyahu has never been popular but that’s Israeli politics and its voting system for you. Obviously Israeli society on the whole wants a swift end to this one way or another as any population at war would with the various impacts it has. You wanted another whinge about Israel and you had one so good for you. I’m totally ok with disgusting you.
     
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    You're a big supporter of Israeli actions in Gaza. Supposing you could, would you vote for Netanyahu, or someone like Yair Golan?
     
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    So many questions. I’m a big supporter of Israel defending its right to exist from various terror groups intent on wiping Jews off the Earth. Part of that requires taking out Hamas infrastructure that they’ve built knowing the only way to destroy it is going to have a death toll. When aid has flowed into Gaza, with ample volume if distributed correctly, the UN and other agencies have been unwilling or unable to stop Hamas getting to it and funding their continued efforts. Plans have been offered to stop this from happening and they’ve been rejected by these agencies. The same organisations who pump out nonsense headlines like ‘14000 babies are going to die in 48 hours’ and people like you lap up without any sort of evaluation.

    You’ll have another whinge and perhaps accuse me of something like genocide denial if I’m really lucky and that’s fine. Let it out.


    As for Netanyahu v Golan, I don’t know much about the bloke beyond what’s in this article. There’s likely to be an election soon and as complicated as Israeli politics is he’s clearly got a good shot so I’d be cranking up the pressure too. He probably is more my type of politics than Netanyahu. Give me Benny in a war though. Give me a Churchill over a Chamberlain.
     
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    The point is, there won't be an election so long as the 'war' continues. Netanyahu broke the last cease-fire because he doesn't want the remaining hostages to be released - that's never been the real objective. It would remove the last, tenuous, justification for the continued war crimes and cleansing of Palestinians in Gaza, and Netanyahu would wind up in jail. October 7th, as horrendous as it was, was a blessing for Netanyahu and Smotric.
     
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    You really don’t know Israel. They’ve had more elections than you’ve had hot dinners. He can theoretically hold on until next October but more than likely won’t. The rest of your post is pretty grim even for such a smug wet lettuce as yourself but I’m tired and I’m sure we’ll have the chance to re-visit next time you fancy another moan.
     
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    Suggesting that Netanyahu will allow elections to happen in October 2026 is like suggesting that Trump will leave quietly in 2028.

    You're right, though, inasmuch as I've never been to Israel. Have you?
     
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    Ok Strolls.

    Yes. Wouldn’t recommend Eilat but Tel Aviv is great albeit insanely expensive. Some great hikes if that’s your thing.
     
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    Never liked the Israelis, ever since Tal Ben Haim played for us.
     
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    Rude
     
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    Not really
     
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    Ben Sahar is fondly remembered
     
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    David Pizanti
     
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    Before my time. Tomer Hemed lives near me and is married to a Miss Universe contestant.
     
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