Election 2024

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How are Labour doing after their first 12 months


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Well done Labour on securing a deal with the EU. I, for one, always argued that Brexit was a good thing which had been badly managed by the Tories.

Now we might start getting them benefits.
 
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Well done Labour on securing a deal with the EU. I, for one, always argued that Brexit was a good thing which had been badly managed by the Tories.

Now we might start getting them benefits.

I'm sort of on the fence with it at the mo, which translated means I'm so far ok with it. I don't particularly trust Brussels and certainly don't trust that Von der Liar but I recognise that Keir is trying to bring some stability to the situation. In a different world I might have been against it, but what the likes of Putin and Trump don't seem to realise is they've moved us closer to the EU, it's like watching them shoot themselves in the foot over it, certainly Putin anyway, because any support he had from me has all diminished. Anyway, can someone get that ageing ex footballer off my tv, news is clearly very slow today, I genuinly am not the slightest bit interested in what he has to say.
 
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The EU fishing deal is excellent news for the UK - our fishermen now have back the European markets in which to sell their produce that were severely restricted by the Brexit dogshite ...
 
I personally have no problem with what Keir has done. I want him to act like a world leader in our best interests, so I just sit on the fence and observe.

My only worry is tthrough reading those rags, and Fosse's immediate comment is that all this will do is stir up people like Nigel Farage again and create a divide the next General Election in four years time.

If we learn anything from Trumps election is let's play nicely and work in all our best interests, that means giving and taking.
 

Have you actually read the BBC article that is your first link? There is actually no increase in EU quotas or decrease in UK quotas over the timespan of this deal - just the removal of lots of red tape and way more unrestricted access to European markets, including and beyond just fishing ... therefore, for me, can only be beneficial for the UK economy over that time ..
 
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I personally have no problem with what Keir has done. I want him to act like a world leader in our best interests, so I just sit on the fence and observe.

My only worry is tthrough reading those rags, and Fosse's immediate comment is that all this will do is stir up people like Nigel Farage again and create a divide the next General Election in four years time.

If we learn anything from Trumps election is let's play nicely and work in all our best interests, that means giving and taking.

Fosse had read the whole of the BBC article and reached his own conclusion - rightly or wrong...
 
Have you actually read the BBC article that is your first link? There is actually no increase in EU quotas or decrease in UK quotas over the times pan of this deal - just the removal of lots or red tape and way more unrestricted access to European markets, including and beyond just fishing ... ...

I don't care about quotas it's you the one being the **** here in regards to narratives, straight in slagging Brexit off, when the reality is the fisherman are not happy. Tough luck aint it, they will have to get on with it. I'm happy for the removal of red tap. I don't need to use language narratives, I can see the sense in what Starmer is trying to do, which happens to be very hard job pleasing everyone.
 
I don't care about quoatas it's you the one being the **** here in regards to narratives, straight in slagging Brexit off, when the reality is the fisherman are not happy. Tough luck aint it, they will have to get on with it. I'm happy for the removal of red tap. I don't need to use language narratives, I can see the sense in what Starmer is trying to do, which happens to be very hard job pleasing everyone.

Fair enough ... but this deal, indeed what Boris did prior, are both aimed at limiting the damage that Brexit caused to our cross-border European trade... no escaping that.
 
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Fair enough ... but this deal, indeed what Boris did prior, are both aimed at limiting the damage that Brexit caused to our cross-border European trade... no escaping that.

You said, 'our fishermen' I accept it's a personal opinion but one the media seem to to want to report differently, hence the links. It's not my view. They keep on about e passports as well, lol, I really couldn't give a **** about e passports or queuing, honestly mate I really couldn't, it's all meaningless bollocks. What is being done is **** stirring by the media, and you know where that will go, straight into the arms of Reform. I think people really have got to distance themselves from the brexit rhetoric because everyone will start choosing a rabbit hole again and diving down it. I just think Starmer is trying to build bridges, let him get on with the job of doing so. If anyone is crying well so be it, but as long as he has no plans to rejoin, I'll be keeping my head down. <laugh>
 
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Apologies anyway Fosse....it's a very sensitive topic. :bandit:

No need mate - I have a particular burr when it comes to Brexit due to where I was working at the time - a UK headquartered FTSE company with European operations (subsidiaries, branches and outlets) - Brexit added £3-5 million per month in operating costs to Europe from the outset and when listed companies get hit with something like that they knee-jerk because of the impact on shareholders and the easiest rectifying method is to cut headcount costs... and most of those were in the UK where the highest salaries tend to be - now I survived - but many really good people didn't... and I'm still pretty resentful ... as you might have guessed <laugh>

PS similar happened to many UK companies with European operations...
 
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