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New Brexit Deal

Discussion in 'Bristol City' started by wizered, May 19, 2025.

  1. wizered

    wizered Ol' Mucker
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  2. wizered

    wizered Ol' Mucker
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    Stitched up like a kipper, we are now rule takers again not rule makers, 12 more years of our fishing grounds being raided, it's a travesty and Starmer the remainer has got away with it.

    Pensioners, Farmers, Waspy women, National Insurance, Welfare payaments, Chagos Islands all betrayed.
     
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    Points 3-6 are positive though.
     
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    Great news :emoticon-0148-yes:
     
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    Cliftonville Well-Known Member

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    3. Incentivises immigration. Private social care bosses will be rubbing their hands. A new tap for low skilled cheap labour to exploit and undermine the domestic workforce.
     
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    realred1952 Well-Known Member

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    stinks of vote harvesting .... anti brexit voters may change attitude and vote Labour.. Just the start? YEP he will want to give so much away that come the next election it becomes more of a front to detract from the pain he is inflicting on the lesser welloff...........
    note...... MP's are made for life some of the new labour "unexpected" who were basically on <£20k pa [ some, a lot on basic wage ] in 1 day jumped into the higher tax bracket of £40k and get expenses and "2 homes"... and likely localised freebies!................... and a nice fat addition to their pension etc after the next GE IF THEY LOSE THEIR SEAT!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    Bring back full free movement and then it would win me over.
    I don’t want to be banned from any house I buy in Spain after 90 days just because a bunch of Farage idolisers forced it on me.
    Brexit has NOT fixed immigration - it’s worse than ever.
     
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    so are you saying governments have wanted to fix immigration????
     
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    How would you propose higher wages are funded?
     
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    What it reeks of most is Labour, and in particular Starmer never supporting the result of a democratic vote
    The country and all those who voted for Brexit have been betrayed within 10 years of the vote, with neither the Tories or Labour wanting to make it work and abide by the wishes of the majority of the population
     
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    I voted to leave then and would again, the EU are a despicable bunch of bureaucrats.
    So they're going to ALLOW us go quote on defence armaments.
    I CANT BELIEVE THEM.
    Should Putin escalate matters in Ukraine, Macron and his committee of cretins will come begging for our forces to be on the front line.
    How those bustards can hold the UK to ransom I'll never know, but obviously Starmer and R&W can.
     
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    Don’t kid yourself that isn’t already happening. Brexit or not, it’s just a one way feeds it stands, at least this opens the valve the other way for younger Brits.
     
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    Introduce a social care tax to fund a social care sector-specific minimum wage set above the National Living Wage, exempt social care from the increase in NIC, make sure Councils use the uplift in council tax allowed in law for its intent = Social care (that's not BCC) , provide tax relief for care staffing, deny care service providers contracts who use zero hour staffing (that's BCC), deny care service providers contracts who are paying staff below the minimum wage (that's BCC), deny care service providers contracts who are not paying staff sleep in allowances (that's BCC) ..

    So what is the point about Brexit and immigration?
     
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    So you are saying we all need to pay more. Then problem with your theory is that the most vulnerable in society are the ones that will suffer and not be able to pay. It amazes me that people get sucked in by the argument we need to increase wages because the cost of things will inevitably rise so we will be no better off.
     
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    Providing a tax relief to care workers does not mean you pay more. Ensuring Councils and this is BCC do not award lucrative contracts to unscrupulous care companies paying staff wage that are illegal/skirting round the law does not mean you pay more ..

    It amazes me that people think social cares staffing crisis's can be solved by exploiting immigration annually bringing in tens of thousands of people paying them abysmally, upholding an industry that treats its staff like ****, and furthers poverty.

    Care staff are vulnerable, care staff are living in poverty, the charity I work for runs a food bank for its staff, we have social care staff who cannot afford homes, staff who cannot pay their bills, staff who go without holidays normal lives to feed their kids .. Social care staff are suffering, its why there are so many vacancies, the annual influxes of migrant labour to cure chronic staff shortages are about as effective as a plaster over Cathy Barrys twat ..
     
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    smash the gongs get rid of all the illegals and spend the billions they cost on care and people who deserve it.
     
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    Sadly Macron’s bunch is far more together than our shower.
    They won’t come to us for help. We’ve even had to ask to share one of their aircraft carriers because we didn’t have one. We are more likely to approach them for help. After all, Thatcher desecrated our manufacturing capabilities and we’ve never been able to recover it.
    We are pathetically run and have been for decades over successive regimes.
    It’s a great time for Argentina to try again…..
     
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    I will never forgive the Toty Party allowing the best part of 2 million to legally settle here. It was deliberate so allowing employers the chance to keep wages down and will never understand why the Unions didn't oppose such huge immigration.
    It's as though employers and unions were in it together.
    Now we have the arch remainer/appeaser Starmer doing all he can to thwart Brexit.......which hasn't worked out because 'those above' know better and never had the will or balls to implement a 'real leave' from the grasp of Brussels.
    This new reset will add a debatable .2% GDP to the economy by 2040.
    Don't believe a word that comes from Starmer, Lammy an co.

    I can't disagree we are and have been run by a shower.
    You should remove the sarcastic Argentina comment.

    Macron and co maybe 'more together' but their motives doesn't fool me.
    I do hope you get your wish to move to sunny climes.
     
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    Anyone who thought Brexit was about limiting immigration to the UK is a fool.
     
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    what has brexit to do with a minister offering free passes to 100,000 or Granny Harmer only having one phrase .. not a plan! to smash the gangs! with 2 Tier Granny Harmer "IN THE DRIVING SEAT" A SOLID REMAINER! he has always endeavoured to try and get the better of things he lost out on.. [ PM's Q's regularly defeated and made to look like he had a face slapped by a wet Cod! ] he has his blindsided opportunity to say " I ve won another one!" FIRST ONE OF COURSE was the cancelling of Rwanda now costing us £ billions .....

    he cant make decisions so needs someone else to do it for him ........... the EU......... even his rush to arrest people and send to prison for the liverpool fiasco for which he released 000's of prisoners early to make space back fired
     
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