Off Topic Politics Thread

[Shandy_top_89]

Must admit I’m rather surprised at the lack of comment regarding the ongoing conflict / disaster in Gaza. Of course I’m not really a proper poster, just pop up with hopefully some humorous occasional & definitely sarcastic comments but what’s going on over there is beyond belief & the human suffering & death rate is just unbelievable. The world seems to be turning an eye & similar here? Don’t mean to be aggressive or stick poking but the lack of, for a political page seems bit strange? Ps. Said before, I always look forward to you guys insightful comments on all subjects.

As horrific as it is, there is much going on in the World to talk about. It has been a topic on here before and will be again i'm sure but it has been going on for a long time now and won't constantly be at the forefront of the thread, similar to the war in Ukraine.

 

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Must admit I’m rather surprised at the lack of comment regarding the ongoing conflict / disaster in Gaza. Of course I’m not really a proper poster, just pop up with hopefully some humorous occasional & definitely sarcastic comments but what’s going on over there is beyond belief & the human suffering & death rate is just unbelievable. The world seems to be turning an eye & similar here? Don’t mean to be aggressive or stick poking but the lack of, for a political page seems bit strange? Ps. Said before, I always look forward to you guys insightful comments on all subjects.

I think Gaza is such a depressing and endless situation that we have given up! I thought the Louis Theroux documentary the other week was really depressing- but very good.

 

[garysfc]

I think Gaza is such a depressing and endless situation that we have given up! I thought the Louis Theroux documentary the other week was really depressing- but very good.

I will have to watch

 

[garysfc]

Oh & btw; the Sycamore Gap bros, lock em up & throw the key. ****ers.

 

[Archers Road]

Oh & btw; the Sycamore Gap bros, lock em up & throw the key. ****ers.

I’m wondering if one of them is a bit autistic, and was manipulated by his mate. It’s a very strange story anyway

 

[Libby]

Oh & btw; the Sycamore Gap bros, lock em up & throw the key. ****ers.

Probably unpopular but I don't think they should go to prison.

Prisons are incredibly full and people convicted of child sex offences don't even go to prison so I don't think people should be jailed for criminal damage.

Hefty fine and a few hundred hours of community service would be more appropriate.

 

[garysfc]

Probably unpopular but I don't think they should go to prison.

Prisons are incredibly full and people convicted of child sex offences don't even go to prison so I don't think people should be jailed for criminal damage.

Hefty fine and a few hundred hours of community service would be more appropriate.

Yeah, I didn’t mean it literally but a punishment needs to be dished out to deter others from wanton vandalism. PROPER community service, lots of it & £’s

 

[Libby]

Yeah, I didn’t mean it literally but a punishment needs to be dished out to deter others from wanton vandalism. PROPER community service, lots of it & £’s

Yep agreed. I'll also qualify my opinion by saying I'm assuming they don't have previous convictions for similar offences

 

[SaintJabie]

2. Creating a local DOGE in Kent County Council because 'we are going to let the auditors in and take a leaf out of Elon Musk's book'.

This will fail.. Local government has not been protected and hasn't seen a real terms increase in spending since the Credit Crunch. By 2015, most of the fat had been cut. Since then they've been cutting into the muscle. It's hard to invest when you have no money and short-termism rules the day.

 

[Archers Road]

This will fail.. Local government has not been protected and hasn't seen a real terms increase in spending since the Credit Crunch. By 2015, most of the fat had been cut. Since then they've been cutting into the muscle. It's hard to invest when you have no money and short-termism rules the day.

Yep, most councils are teetering on the edge of bankruptcy already. Southamptopn's certainly is.

London councils seem to just about keep themselves funded with parking fines. No idea about Kent, but I doubt any chainsaw weilding Mini-Musk will find much to trim bar vital organs.

 

[Shandy_top_89]

The last sentence though suggests that any prediction of "not good things" would be at worst a continuation of the past who knows how many years anyway?

Agree on the first bit however everywhere has published accounts, even government but it often takes an audit from outsiders to find out where the money is really going and not what it says on paper.

Thing with this is most councils have had the likes of Deloitte crawling all over them already under the Tories.

I’ve heard stories of fresh postgrad auditors sitting in with Social Work Teams taking notes to report back during the Cameron era then being used for restructures of which there have been 4-5 since then, all reductions in size while the Social Care burden has skyrocketed.

 

[San Tejón]

Must admit I’m rather surprised at the lack of comment regarding the ongoing conflict / disaster in Gaza. Of course I’m not really a proper poster, just pop up with hopefully some humorous occasional & definitely sarcastic comments but what’s going on over there is beyond belief & the human suffering & death rate is just unbelievable. The world seems to be turning an eye & similar here? Don’t mean to be aggressive or stick poking but the lack of, for a political page seems bit strange? Ps. Said before, I always look forward to you guys insightful comments on all subjects.

I think some who used to talk about it were accused or were afraid of being accused of antisemitism, so the chat died down.
At a time when we have been celebrating the 80th anniversary of VE Day, and the end of Fascist control of major countries, it is disgraceful that so many countries that were involved in securing that victory are now ignoring the suffering of the Palestinian people and, in some cases, openly supporting it by the supply of weapons to a fascist government.
Trump is still beating the drum for a “Gaza Riviera”, Israel’s ministers are openly supporting the removal of Palestinian people from their homeland in an act of ethnic cleansing and thousands of civilians are at risk of starving to death as a direct result of food shortages caused by the Israeli government and army blockades.
It’s subhuman behaviour.

 

[San Tejón]

Good to see Reform UK showing their hypocrisy by saying that they will end working from home in the areas they control, at the same time as they have 9 adverts in place for staff who WILL be able to work from home.

 

[Ian Thumwood]

First Reform councellor facing calls to resign in Lancashire following pro Hitler posts of Facebook. This will be the first of many before they start of govern.

I just feel that they are setting themselves up for a kick in. There is no money to trim from council budgets. This will end un farce.

Sorry , but i do not see them as a serious threat. The election success of last week us setting them.up for a massive fall. I just feel that we are going to see swathes of resignations next month. They are political Keystone Kops.

 

[It'sOnlyAGame]

https://www.thetimes.com/article/e2...b?shareToken=437286c70bc61292f083a4d0dc195121

 

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https://www.thetimes.com/article/e2...b?shareToken=437286c70bc61292f083a4d0dc195121

What a **** article. Literally takes her stats from a webpage where ordinary people write suggestions for improving the NHS.

The PR push for Reform is getting silly now. I listened to Rees-Mogg talking about Reform the other day. He said Reform were just the Tory party with some rebranding and no discernible policy difference - and eventually it would merge into the Tory party. So, are people stupid? No more stupid than they have been for the last 80 years, where being conned into voting for some version of the Tory party by a press paid for the by the wealthy and a clearly vested interest in promoting the business class ahead of the working class.

What an appallingly cheap analogy the ‘lanyard class’ is. We worship intellectual mediocrity in this country, and the shameless pushing of the ‘liberal elite’ narrative - when we have not ever been run by liberal elites - is painful. The politics of self-pity is booming. Oh let’s blame foreigners and clever people for our **** lives - while voting for morons over and over.

Sorry, but only racists and morons vote for Reform. Or absolute bellends.

 

[Ian Thumwood]

What a **** article. Literally takes her stats from a webpage where ordinary people write suggestions for improving the NHS.

The PR push for Reform is getting silly now. I listened to Rees-Mogg talking about Reform the other day. He said Reform were just the Tory party with some rebranding and no discernible policy difference - and eventually it would merge into the Tory party. So, are people stupid? No more stupid than they have been for the last 80 years, where being conned into voting for some version of the Tory party by a press paid for the by the wealthy and a clearly vested interest in promoting the business class ahead of the working class.

What an appallingly cheap analogy the ‘lanyard class’ is. We worship intellectual mediocrity in this country, and the shameless pushing of the ‘liberal elite’ narrative - when we have not ever been run by liberal elites - is painful. The politics of self-pity is booming. Oh let’s blame foreigners and clever people for our **** lives - while voting for morons over and over.

Sorry, but only racists and morons vote for Reform. Or absolute bellends.

I agree exactly.

I think it is upsetting just how close the likes Ahern and Sturgeon came to creating a better and more inclusive society. They were beacons for a genuinely fair society. Both will be considered favourably by posperity.

If i have a criticism of the more liberal politicians , it is that they sometimes failed to take the working class with them. Reform are not the answer. Their type failed in 1930s and will fail again.

 

[EasyBreezer]

Sturgeon

Never has such a mediocre, poorly performing party leader been given such a free ride by political observers.

Unimaginable levels of public support and unprecedented levels of political capital wasted for 10 consecutive years before going out in an expenses scandal over an RV.

Honestly what the hell do you see in her.

 

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I listened to Any Answers the other day. Yes, I am old enough to be a Radio 4 man, and the audience was surprisingly positive about Labour. Almost all pensioners, the overriding sentiment was removing universal WFA was the correct move, but they didn’t understand why Labour and the press were not reminding everyone that the triple lock meant pensioners were 1400 quid better off - while losing only £400 for WFA. Pensioners are better off - but nobody is pushing that narrative.

 

[The Ides of March]

Sturgeon

Never has such a mediocre, poorly performing party leader been given such a free ride by political observers.

Unimaginable levels of public support and unprecedented levels of political capital wasted for 10 consecutive years before going out in an expenses scandal over an RV.

Honestly what the hell do you see in her.

This epitaph can also be applied to Cameron, Johnson and Farage!! In fact I thought it was referring to Farage as no oñe has called him out!