Marti Considering Quitting

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Stroller said:
He just wasn't up to it then.
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Could be numerous factors really. For arguments sake, let's say the club wants a style of a high press energy and go out and buy you ****in Madsen. I understand the thinking behind the clubs model as managers don't have a long shelf life nowadays, swapping them results in too many changes, costing money. Nourry may have done some good things for the club but for a 27 year old, with no experience dictating the direction of the club regarding player acquisition and playing style, then this is always going to end in failure or at the very least, fractured relationships. Whether Marti could do the job, without knowing what the ambition is, may never be known. I personally think that the tools they provided him weren't good enough for the job. Gone are the days of a manager telling the board the players he wants/needs, hence the term 'head coach'.
 
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Can’t believe any manager that would agree to what the board want to dictate how they want him to set the team up & play, if they do it’s a very weak manager
 
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jeffranger said:
Can’t believe any manager that would agree to what the board want to dictate how they want him to set the team up & play, if they do it’s a very weak manager
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That’s more or less the fancy modern method so you bring in managers who fit into your ‘philosophy’ and the club isn’t a complete mess going from a Beale to a Critchley to an Ainsworth with wildly varying methods needing a huge overhaul of the squad. Works for the likes of Brighton so they aren’t reliant on managers as much and both players and managers who leave don’t tend to go on to do too much.

All goes out the window when you’re six games without a win or the people at the top are chancing clowns but the theory is sound.
 
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bobmid said:
Could be numerous factors really. For arguments sake, let's say the club wants a style of a high press energy and go out and buy you ****in Madsen. I understand the thinking behind the clubs model as managers don't have a long shelf life nowadays, swapping them results in too many changes, costing money. Nourry may have done some good things for the club but for a 27 year old, with no experience dictating the direction of the club regarding player acquisition and playing style, then this is always going to end in failure or at the very least, fractured relationships. Whether Marti could do the job, without knowing what the ambition is, may never be known. I personally think that the tools they provided him weren't good enough for the job. Gone are the days of a manager telling the board the players he wants/needs, hence the term 'head coach'.
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I'd imagine that the style of play that Burnley demonstrated on Saturday would be what our board are looking for. The lack of movement from our players, though, means that, far too often, we just work the ball back to Nardi to boot upfield.
 
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It will be a nightmare if he leaves
He has been our best coach in ages
The crowd love him and most of the team
The team spirit is clearly great
Most of the new players have had good spells and injuries have stopped a few of them marching on eg Dembele and possibly Celar
Andersen and Madsen are clearly not suited , I'll give you this.
We have only one player who can play up front
If we play it long we give it straight back to the opposition
We started the season with Frey up front and played it around too much at the back and got pressed
We then mixed it up a bit and got their press to stand back a bit
Frey then got injured as did Celar just as he was possibly finding his feet
Not sure what we do more without a homogenised 25,000 stadium that is atmosphre free and only 75% full
These are the goods time
Do you really want to be Burnley
 
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Stroller said:
I'd imagine that the style of play that Burnley demonstrated on Saturday would be what our board are looking for. The lack of movement from our players, though, means that, far too often, we just work the ball back to Nardi to boot upfield.
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There seems no situation where we can't work the ball back to Nardi. Movement is quite a basic thing in football so we can't seem to get the basics right. We have too many straight line runners and not enough imagination. I used Hannibal and Madsen as a comparison. They were absolutely miles apart in movement.
 
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bobmid said:
There seems no situation where we can't work the ball back to Nardi. Movement is quite a basic thing in football so we can't seem to get the basics right. We have too many straight line runners and not enough imagination. I used Hannibal and Madsen as a comparison. They were absolutely miles apart in movement.
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And surely, even if he hasn’t personally picked the players and has a template set by the board, basic movement is something that the coach can do something about? And hasn’t in this case.
 
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sb_73 said:
And surely, even if he hasn’t personally picked the players and has a template set by the board, basic movement is something that the coach can do something about? And hasn’t in this case.
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Some players just aren't cut out for it which sounds strange. It's a thought process, a brain function to move after a pass even into a covering position if necessary. It's got to become habit. Colback, field and Varane tend to pass the ball, generally backwards, at a push sidewards and think that's job done.
 
Surely Marti was brought in because his style of play in Sweden matched the club's vision. It's not his fault our team is not equipped to play in a certain style. He blatantly wanted a LB so we got a rubbish RB on loan instead. Clearly wanted a striker, we get a ball shy striker missing his Swiss chocolate. A box to box midfielder oh let's get the most unenthusiastic player i have ever witnessed. Lots to question before Marti totally takes the blame for an average season
 
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