Off Topic Politics Thread

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Americans are so dense they don’t understand why denying immigrants due process is bad. They think being denied the right to prove you have leave to remain won’t affect people who do have leave to remain…


The level of stupidity in that statement is mind-blowing.
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It's not all Americans, there's a lot of critical voices across many sectors of society. CNN are reporting the Trump administration appears open to negotiations with Harvard, even after America’s most prestigious university sued the federal government setting up a clash over academic freedom, federal funding and campus oversight. https://edition.cnn.com/2025/04/22/us/harvard-lawsuit-trump-administration-explainer/index.html
Harvard President Alan Garber says the school will 'not compromise' on its rights with the Trump administration according to NBC. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...ol-will-not-compromise-trump-admin-rcna202564
Judges are kicking back too. "A federal judge has ordered the Trump administration to restore all jobs and funding for the Voice of America and other US-backed news outlets, ruling that efforts to dismantle it violated the law and Constitution." https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0jz58zjllzo
The Supreme Court, have now ruled that the White House is required to take at steps toward freeing Abrego Garcia as widely reported
People on the streets.
"Opponents of President Donald Trump’s administration took to the streets of communities large and small across the U.S. on Saturday, decrying what they see as threats to the nation’s democratic ideals.
The disparate events ranged from a march through midtown Manhattan and a rally in front of the White House to a demonstration at a Massachusetts commemoration of “the shot heard ’round the world” on April 19, 1775, marking the start of the Revolutionary War 250 years ago." https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politi...-rally-in-cities-and-towns-across-the-country
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I've been chatting with friends about go on an extended vacation across the USA. They've been going through their phones and laptops scrupulously removing all Trump regime directed derogatory material as have some of the people they'll be visiting who consider themselves vulnerable. It will be interesting to get their slant on how it really is on the ground on their road trip.
 
Lemons and Oranges said:
There you go, bringing context and facts into Os's statements. How is Os ever going to convince us that the problem is foreigners, if you keep showing accurate information?
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Os was never one to let truth get in the way of a good story, good did I say? Hardly that, the trail of mis/disinformation will continue and be shown to be the utter bollocks as Archie aptly describes it.
 
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Essentially, if every single solitary non-white non-British person were deported, the overall arrest rate would fall by quite a bit, not least because police numbers would fall by 8.4%.
 
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Two German teenagers were imprisoned, strip searched and deported from the USA, which doesn’t bode well for the World Cup, especially if the visitors don’t have hotels and internal flights organised before arrival.
The authorities are claiming that they were looking for work and didn’t have the above organised, whereas the girls claimed that they sometimes do freelance, online work but have no customers in the states and left their plans fluid as they were travelling.

https://people.com/german-teens-detained-hawaii-during-post-graduation-trip-11719907
 
San Tejón said:
Two German teenagers were imprisoned, strip searched and deported from the USA, which doesn’t bode well for the World Cup, especially if the visitors don’t have hotels and internal flights organised before arrival.
The authorities are claiming that they were looking for work and didn’t have the above organised, whereas the girls claimed that they sometimes do freelance, online work but have no customers in the states and left their plans fluid as they were travelling.

https://people.com/german-teens-detained-hawaii-during-post-graduation-trip-11719907
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The US always want to know what you're staying don't they? When I was looking at it years ago it was something that was advised to ensure you have booked.
 
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People ask why the government doesn’t release more data based on ethnicity. Well, part of the reason is that people, in general, don’t understand data. And worse, many people like to weaponise data.

The white population in the UK is much larger than any other ethnicity, and that does a lot to hide our sins. People will point to ‘facts’ like the proportion of crime committed by non-whites is higher than that committed by whites, but that is comparing a settled and very much aging white population with a young, financially deprived non-white population.
The only way to get fair data would be to compare males / females by age bracket and socio-economic status.

This is a dangerous time, when the uneducated shout with loud voices and support their ideas with misleading data.
 
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People ask why the government doesn’t release more data based on ethnicity. Well, part of the reason is that people, in general, don’t understand data. And worse, many people like to weaponise data.

The white population in the UK is much larger than any other ethnicity, and that does a lot to hide our sins. People will point to ‘facts’ like the proportion of crime committed by non-whites is higher than that committed by whites, but that is comparing a settled and very much aging white population with a young, financially deprived non-white population.
The only way to get fair data would be to compare males / females by age bracket and socio-economic status.

This is a dangerous time, when the uneducated shout with loud voices and support their ideas with misleading data.
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^^This. The uneducated, that now feel empowered and think everyone else is 'dumb'
 
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StJabbo1 said:
I've been chatting with friends about go on an extended vacation across the USA. They've been going through their phones and laptops scrupulously removing all Trump regime directed derogatory material as have some of the people they'll be visiting who consider themselves vulnerable. It will be interesting to get their slant on how it really is on the ground on their road trip.
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Have family in Canada occasionally work in USA, been advised to take a burner phone
 
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